Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Savvas Kyriacou

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BLP with no real claim of notability, likely an autobiography. Mccapra (talk) 21:29, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople and United Kingdom. Mccapra (talk) 21:29, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bodybuilding and Cyprus. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:34, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
• Keep - Article seems to have been created by someone close to the subject or involved with them in some way. However the man that the article is about does meet notability, perhaps also as an athlete, but from what I have found he and his practice have been noted through various independent coverage. It seems that he is notable as a former bodybuilder, trainer with his gym and supplement business per these articles: [https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/features/protein-supplements-are-generating-huge-profits-but-do-they-really-help-you-slim-10311581.html The Independent], [https://theface.com/life/muscleworks-gym-london-savvas-kyriacou-health-fitness The Face] and [https://www.affaritaliani.it/rubriche/Ilcampione/savvas-kyriacou-bodybuilding-palestra-londra090814.html affaritaliani].--PiccklePiclePikel (talk) 22:39, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
• Delete Unfortunately, not enough notability present as of now. Handmeanotherbagofthemchips (talk) 22:42, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

::This is not about the current state of the article. It is about if the person is notable or not regardless of the present quality of the article.--PiccklePiclePikel (talk) 22:59, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

:::Please take what im about to say with a gigantic grain of salt, however, sometime i was browsing wp:spi cases, and i remember that there was a sock-farm that was spamming promo stuff, some of them related to this particular person and his buisnesess. This particular article's edit history seems not to be affected, but that case involved the outright speedy deletion of related articles. So, i count this as one more point for deletion. Handmeanotherbagofthemchips (talk) 22:27, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

• Delete Not notable, references mentioned above contain either passing mentions or the source is minor. Nythar^T.C 00:06, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

::If you are referring to the 3 sources I found doing a quick google search. The first one has a paragraph about him, the second and third sources are entirely about him. Is there a reason to believe any of them are not reliable sources and can not be used to establish notability?--PiccklePiclePikel (talk) 00:34, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

:::{{re|PiccklePiclePikel}} Is there a reason why you cited that first reference (The Independent) which isn't about him and contains a passing mention? And the other two are minor references. Why is it difficult to understand? If you have a minor article about yourself in a not-that-famous newspaper, does that qualify you for a Wikipedia article? Hey, there are many people with articles in magazines, they don't all deserve Wikipedia articles. Magazines interview many people. What has he done that's so special, or at least, notable? Nythar^T.C 01:07, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

::::{{re|Nythar}} Yes, the 2nd two articles are entirely about him. But the first one is a bit more than a passing mention as it is a whole paragraph putting him and his business in the context of a larger phenomena. Of the two articles entirely about him that you said were minor, its possible, but the Italian one seems to be a source widely used in other wikipedia articles as well and seems to be quite a prominent Italian news site. Overall this guy seems to have won some competitions and be working as a coach, but it seems that the part of him that has been widely noted is his gym/training/supplement activities and him in the context of this business. Although two of those articles do have some large biographical sections on him.--PiccklePiclePikel (talk) 10:24, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

:::::Your second and third sources are both interviews and one of them is a blog. The guy runs a successful small business but this isn’t the stuff of notability. Mccapra (talk) 11:15, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

:::::The guy seems to have some longstanding level of celebrity. Found another [https://spitalfieldslife.com/2013/09/17/the-musclemen-of-bethnal-green/ article] published by "Spitalfields Life Books Ltd". It also contains a significant amount direct quotations to things the man himself has said, but also contains some testimonial type parts about specific people that know him and were trained by him or at his gym. --PiccklePiclePikel (talk) 12:12, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

• Delete Lacks in-depth coverage in independent WP:RS. MrsSnoozyTurtle 05:49, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

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