Login
Login

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sean Davis (actor)

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. While there is some evidence that the subject received an award, the WP:PORNBIO guideline is not a bright line for inclusion. In this case, the lack of reliable sources, which has not been refuted, must override this guideline. Kevin (talk) 02:17, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

=[[Sean Davis (actor)]]=

:{{la|Sean Davis (actor)}} – (View AfD)(View log)

:({{findsources|Sean Davis (actor)}})

Unremarkable porn performer. Appears to fail WP:PORNBIO (unsubstantiated assertion of award) and WP:GNG. Only source at time of nomination is a dead link. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 02:28, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

  • Note: This debate has been added to the WikiProject Pornography list of deletions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:41, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
  • Delete: The article, at least in current form, proves existence, but doesn't point to how the person is actually notable. It's a common name, however, so if sufficient sources can be found and there's a clearer demonstration of actual notability, I'd be willing to reconsider my vote here. --MZMcBride (talk) 23:55, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
  • Delete, unless a reliable source can be found for his award win. Epbr123 (talk) 00:19, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
  • Keep, ref for award added, meets WP:Pornbio but more content would certainly be a better read. -- Banjeboi 16:37, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
  • Delete since there are no reliable sources that discuss the subject of this blp in any depth at all.Bali ultimate (talk) 16:51, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
  • Delete As mostly unsourced possibly defamatory. Hipocrite (talk) 19:35, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
  • Could you explain what's defamatory if they are sourced as having won a major award for their porn work? -- Banjeboi 21:47, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
  • Winning awards for porn work is possibly defamatory. Hipocrite (talk) 21:49, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
  • Could you please explain how? -- Banjeboi 23:18, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
  • Perhaps you could simply review Defamation. In any case, the possibility of defamation in this article is crystal clear, since there is an unreliably sourced claim that the supposedly notable porn performer is identified as a (minor) mainstream actor sharing the name. Well, make that "was," since I've just deleted it. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 01:25, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
  • I'm not bothered with removing that information but there is still no explanation why noting a porn performer has won an award would be in any way defaming them. If they are doing the work there is little to carry the concept that they are in some way besmirched for getting an award for it. -- Banjeboi 02:25, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
  • No one has said that here but you, so you should be able to answer the question if anyone can. I pointed out the "possibly defamatory" element, just as I've pointed out similar issues of badly sourced or unsourced identifications in similar/related discussions, and you're ignoring it and blithely suggesting that editors who disagree with you are making unfounded and illogical arguments (which are generally figments of your imagination at best). Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 03:16, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
  • A simple mistake, which was eliminated(provided it was a different person). Do you believe there is a reason to delete an article, just because someone else might have the same name, and thus cause confusion? Dream Focus 18:34, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
  • Keep Meets requirements for an article. Award winning porno star. Dream Focus 18:34, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
  • IMDB [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0205441/] shows him as the same actor who was in the love boat. I guess someone could compare pictures and see if it was the same guy. Or check out his home page. I tried to do that, but when I clicked on it, the first thing I saw was a man waving his thing around, so I hit the back button at once. Someone not bothered by that can look around his site and see if he list that. He may only advertise his porn stuff on his site, but I'm thinking if it was him on this show, he'd list it somewhere, even if it was just one episode. Dream Focus 18:47, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

:* Comment I have reverted the deletion by Hullaballoo Wolfowitz . Source identifies the porn actor with the "Love Boat" actor as the same person. No defamation - if that's what a reliable source says then that is what we report as editors - going beyond the sources is OR. Once again, this performer fully meets WP:PORNBIO as a winner of a major award. Other considerations are immaterial. Cherryblossom1982 (talk) 22:18, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

::*IMDB is not, by consensus, reliable enough to use as a source for potentially sensistive information. There's not even a consensus that IMDB is reliable enough to use as a source for virtually anything; see Wikipedia_talk:Citing_IMDb. It's certainly not reliable enough to identify which of the dozen or so guys named Sean Davis, or some variation there, appeared in a TV episode. It's rather odd that a low-rent Australian gay porn star, last seen managing an Australian bar, would pop up in Hollywood years after his main performing career ended, appear in one TV show, and return to Australia -- especially since, when interviewed about visiting the US, he doesn't even mention it. BLP violation, removed again. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 01:50, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.