Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sean St John
:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Liz Read! Talk! 23:11, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
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WP:BLP of a business executive, not properly sourced as passing notability criteria for businesspeople.
As always, people in business are not automatically entitled to have Wikipedia just because they exist, and must be demonstrated as passing WP:GNG on the depth and quality of their sourceability, but 17 of the 19 footnotes here are not support for notability at all: seven are his own "staff" profiles on the self-published websites of organizations he's directly affiliated with, seven are Q&A interviews in which he's talking about himself in the first person, and three are glancing namechecks of his existence as a provider of soundbite in an article about something else. That leaves just two footnotes that actually represent reliable source coverage about him, which isn't enough.
Nothing stated here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to have considerably more third-party coverage in real media and books than this. Bearcat (talk) 12:38, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople and Canada. Bearcat (talk) 12:38, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
- :Delete The one Globe and Mail article is an interview, the second seems ok-ish [https://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/streetwise/national-bank-executive-fined-over-deal-to-gain-unfair-access-to-new-bond-issue/article37937860/]. The article glosses over some regulatory issues and the rather hefty fine he faced, which I don't think is enough for CRIME. BLP isn't met, most are simply confirmation of where he works or what he does. Oaktree b (talk) 13:57, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. Rather keep as the guy holds a significant position as the executive vice president and managing director of the National Bank of Canada, with a progression in his banking career. Additionally, he's engaged in various philanthropic activities, including co-chairing major fundraising events, collaborating with recognized foundations, and co-founding the Social Impact Film and Arts Festival. While the article's sources are not deep enough, it should be reached a community consensus here. LusikSnusik (talk) 15:00, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 22:40, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
- Weak keep while I understand concerns about notability, the page does not solely focus on Sean St John's business side, but also his philanthropic activities, such as organizing an event that raised the highest charity amount in Toronto or collaborating with the Princess Margaret Cancer Foundation, and co-founding the Social Impact Film and Arts Festival. Given his not-usual Mohawk First Nation ancestry, maybe additional local sources, both printed or online, are not mentioned in the article. So, it's better to improve the page for now with new references. Mozzcircuit (talk) 14:23, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
::Neither philanthropy or being indigenous exempt a person from having to pass WP:GNG on the quality, depth and geographic range of the sourcing. Bearcat (talk) 18:11, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - Poorly sourced, and seems to fail BLP notability! Ekdalian (talk) 13:54, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. This is a professional profile for someone who is also involved in philanthropy, WP:NOTLINKEDIN. Article does not establish notability. Reading the article I see one bit that scratches the surface of a claim to notability, buried near the end: "In March 2019, along with Bryan Trottier and other NHL pro hockey players, St. John participated in a Tech4Good tournament to raise funds for Connected North, a program that would deliver education and mental health and wellness services to Canadian students from remote northern communities." This is sourced to a single article and is primarily about the event, with very little about the subject. If sources do demonstrate notability, this article still needs TNT. —siroχo 05:19, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
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:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.