Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sheila Musaji

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This bio lacks sources for notability. One online source used in the article is to a website that disappeared. The other source is to the person's own online magazine. There are very few citations in books and even less mention in the text of books. Many of the books are compilations by the author and self-published. Most information is from her own bio from her own website. Jason from nyc (talk) 12:14, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

• Keep - I'm going to say this meets minimum requirements of author, [http://chicagomonitor.com/2013/09/the-muslims-are-coming-and-the-better-angels-of-our-nature/] reference here as to her being a "leading American Muslim journalist"; and per her compilation of info related to Muslims condemning terrorism appears significant (and possibly the only one of its kind, I'm not sure) [https://books.google.com/books?id=MCCja27G0AAC&pg=PA571&dq=Sheila+Musaji&hl=en&sa=X&ei=XL5pVa6sLMOgNoXmgLAJ&ved=0CCQQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=Sheila%20Musaji&f=false], [http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/junaid-jahangir/isis_b_5839578.html]; [https://books.google.com/books?id=XUR3rtLvWeIC&pg=PA239&dq=Sheila+Musaji&hl=en&sa=X&ei=XL5pVa6sLMOgNoXmgLAJ&ved=0CDUQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=Sheila%20Musaji&f=false] [http://english.alarabiya.net/en/views/news/world/2014/07/07/Liberal-Western-pundits-where-s-the-outrage-over-moderate-Muslims-.html],[https://books.google.com/books?id=xTZHAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA223&lpg=PA223&dq=%22Fatwas+%26+Statements+by+Muslim+Scholars+%26+Organizations%22&source=bl&ots=MA1deanMBQ&sig=y0S0xR_f4LUMG97uA1PzkjzbruM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=9rxpVejDNdHpgwSIhYKgCw&ved=0CCwQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=%22Fatwas%20%26%20Statements%20by%20Muslim%20Scholars%20%26%20Organizations%22&f=false], [http://www.patheos.com/blogs/hindtrospectives/2014/08/7-questions-to-ask-before-asking-if-muslims-condemn-terrorism/], [https://books.google.com/books?id=7SfSdKLX-RcC&pg=PA205&dq=Fatwas+%26+Statements+by+Muslim+Scholars+%26+Organizations&hl=en&sa=X&ei=3L1pVfmHPImeNtutgogK&ved=0CCMQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Fatwas%20%26%20Statements%20by%20Muslim%20Scholars%20%26%20Organizations&f=false], Strong mentions on Patheos, which although it is a "blog" should count as a RS in this area [http://www.patheos.com/blogs/muslimahnextdoor/2011/09/three-questions-for-american-muslims-sheila-musaji/] —Мандичка^YO 😜 13:53, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

::I appreciate the hard work but let's take a closer look. The first link brings us to an article on The Chicago Monitor, which describes itself as "an online news, opinion, and commentary publication. It serves primarily to provide in-depth analysis of mainstream news and also uncover under-reported and unreported stories on the local, national, and international level." This implies it is not mainstream and deals with what's not notable by the mainstream. If I'm correct my search tells me only two Wiki articles currently use it as a source and its reliability has not been established. Jason from nyc (talk)

::I use reference #2 in the article on The American Muslim magazine. The reference is in a section talking about publications that "make attempts to represent the whole community" of Muslims, which is "less well established" due to the communities lack of "homogeneity." It does say the magazine has reestablished itself online but gives no quantification of its success. Still, it is a good reference ... for the magazine. Jason from nyc (talk)

::The others talk about her database. #3 is a blog. #4 gives a passing reference. #5 is an opinion piece. #6 is self-published by a vanity press. #7 is an opinion piece. Jason from nyc (talk)

::Reference #8 is a blog, as you note, and is the strongest endorsement of the database. Jason from nyc (talk)

::Reference #9 gives the database as a reference but doesn't talk about it in the text (as far as I can tell). Does every cited author (or data collector) get a bio on wikipedia? A few people cite her database but do no analysis or seem to use it in any substantial way. It's hard to tell its value. But I agree, the database is the issue. Is it enough to make her notable? Jason from nyc (talk) 11:25, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

• Delete - This is a really weakly referenced article on a non-notable person. George Custer's Sabre (talk) 03:43, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:10, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:10, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:10, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

• Delete At first glance, I thought: probably redirect to the magazine. But I found so little sourcing for the magazine that I just tagged it also for potential deletion. Kudos to User:Wikimandia for heroic effort to find sources. My efforts to source this also failed. It seems to me that what we have here is a self-proclaimed expert publishing a self-proclaimed magazine. FailsWP:BIO, WP:GNG, WP:AUTHOR. Kudos to User:Jason from nyc for spotting this vanity, self-promotion.E.M.Gregory (talk) 13:17, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

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