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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shelley Scown

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep.  Sandstein  17:41, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

=[[Shelley Scown]]=

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No indication that she meets the notability criteria. All the references provided (along with others I found when searching) were minor ones:

  • Novanation reference shows that she has performed at a specific venue - but no significant coverage
  • ABC Jazz reference shows that they have played some of her songs, but no biographical coverage or coverage of songs (i.e. no significant coverage)
  • ARIA Awards reference shows that she was nominated but did not win an award - not significant coverage
  • Northern College reference does not appear to mention her on the site
  • IMDB coverage is not generally accepted as a reliable source.

Other coverage which I found was minor ("Shelley Scown played at xyz." type of thing) PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 07:19, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

  • I have to admit that this is a borderline case, but I would say weak keep, given the notable collaborations and mentions in the Australian media [https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&btnmeta_news_search=1&q=%22Shelley+Scown%22+&oq=%22Shelley+Scown%22+&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=s&gs_upl=3428l3428l0l4925l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0#q=%22Shelley+Scown%22&hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&source=lnt&tbs=ar:1&sa=X&ei=yonkToSuC8P64QT7gtzCBQ&ved=0CA8QpwUoBQ&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=3fe416d8012ce8a4&biw=1400&bih=827], [https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Shelley+Scown%22&btnG=Search+Books&tbm=bks&tbo=1]. I've added some citations. The [http://www.originmusic.com.au/origin_recordings.html website of her publisher] says that the album 'Angel' won the ABC Classic FM Jazz Album Of The Year award, however, I can't verify the claim by an independent source. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 10:48, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

:I've notified the Wikipedia:WikiProject Jazz about this discussion. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 10:53, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. —Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 10:53, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:00, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

  • Borderline but delete. The film roles are all bit parts and do not imply nobility. Has been involved in 1 significant album but as far as I can see it did not meet the criteria of wp:music. The reference at ABC Jazz says: We are unable to find an entry for this artist in Wikipedia . Visit the user-contributed encylopedia, create one and tell the world about this artist! - an invitation to manufacture notability. Porturology (talk) 08:26, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

:* With respect, that's a pretty standard wording for not-founds; the BBC equivalent is "We currently have no biography for this artist. You can contribute biographical information for <> to Wikipedia, the user-contributed encyclopedia." No reason to be suspicious of the broadcasters' enthusiasm for WP!. AllyD (talk) 10:11, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, TigerShark (talk) 11:26, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

  • Keep ARIA Award nomination clearly satisfies wp:music#8. she also has significant coverage in {{Citation | last = Jackson | first = Adrian | author-link = | date = 8 April 1994 | title = Shelley Scown's Trek From Mozart To Jazz | periodical = The Age }} -- {{Citation | last = Weir | first = Kenny | author-link = | date = 21 December 1997 | title = Angel of music | periodical = Sunday Herald Sun }} -- {{Citation | last = Shand | first = John | author-link = | date = 25 February 2000 | title = Send In The Scown | periodical = Sunday Herald Sun }} -- {{Citation | last = Jones | first = Kevin | author-link = | date = 21 March 1998 | title = A voice discovered. | periodical = The Australian }} -- amongst others. Clear and obvious keep. duffbeerforme (talk) 07:46, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein  08:28, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

  • Keep Noting sources such as [http://www.allaboutjazz.com/articles/down0600.htm this 2000 All About Jazz article] where she is listed among "international and Australian jazz greats",[http://www.allaboutjazz.com/articles/down0202.htm this 2002 article] "...the cream of our singers with the likes of Shelley Scown...", also [http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?id=240&page=1 this 2003 article]; all by the same critic but no reason to second guess his knowledge of Australian jazz. AllyD (talk) 10:05, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
  • Keep An Australian google book search results in several sources: http://www.google.com.au/#q=shelley+scown&hl=en&prmdo=1&tbm=bks&prmd=imvnso&ei=waj7TuisA4euiAL7362yDg&start=0&sa=N&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=fcbbd6ee68173e53&biw=1680&bih=834 --MLKLewis (talk) 23:41, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

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