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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shoya Nakajima

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.  Sandstein  06:31, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

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This was an endorsed Prod. A search in Google news gave 39 results - not much, but enough to make a wider discussion appropriate. This is a procedural listing, I am neither supporting nor opposing the deletion SilkTork *Tea time 16:01, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Keep Playing in the World Cup definintely meets the notability guidelines for athletes. Edward321 (talk) 00:14, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

::Which guidelines for athletes? I believe WP:NSPORT is the current relevant guideline and it specifically excludes youth representation.--ClubOranjeT 11:04, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Delete - as original PROD'er. He has not played in a fully pro league, and there is no significant coverage. He therefore fails WP:GNG, and WP:NSPORT.As for his youth international appearances, they are explicitly excluded under WP:NSPORT. Sir Sputnik (talk) 00:42, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Sir Sputnik (talk) 02:13, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Sir Sputnik (talk) 02:13, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Sir Sputnik (talk) 02:13, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
  • Delete. Fails WP:GNG amd WP:NFOOTBALL. Argyle 4 Lifetalk 05:21, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
  • Delete - he definitely hasn't played in the World Cup - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 11:28, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
  • Comment. I'm curious as to why people are saying this article fails WP:GNG. There are reliable sources which mention this person scoring a goal in the quarter finals of the 2011 FIFA U-17 World Cup. Are people saying that this is not "more than a trivial mention"? The sources do not give much information, but the information they give might be argued is quite vital. Can events such as scoring a goal in a reasonably important match make someone notable? I'm quite ambivalent about this article, but curious as how people are interpreting WP:GNG and how it applies to this case. If a person does not meet WP:NFOOTBALL are they automatically not notable? The guideline says that "failure to meet these criteria does not mean an article must be deleted". It may be that WP:ONEVENT applies here, and that the person should be mentioned in 2011 FIFA U-17 World Cup but not in a standalone article. SilkTork ✔Tea time 10:45, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
  • :Reliable sources do mention he scored a gaol at this youth tournament. However, coverage of the individual fall under sports journalism of a general nature which do not cover the subject in depth. He is mentioned in the 2011 FIFA U-17 World Cup or related articles as a goal scorer. Consensus at WP:FOOTY and WP:NSPORTS is that youth tournaments do not confer notability. Sports coverage is so prolific these days you can dig up a tabloid article or three on any 12 year old kid that "may make it one day" and I appreciate where you are coming from with the "Can events such as scoring a goal in a reasonably important match make someone notable", but reality is that U-17 is at least 4th level international (behind senior, U-23/olympic, U-21/U-20), argualble behing several levels of professional league football and therefore too far down the tree unless an individual has done something else significant in the scheme of things. --ClubOranjeT 11:01, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

:::Thanks for that. SilkTork ✔Tea time 14:53, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

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