Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Siege of Kangra

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Sources fail to provide significant coverage to this topic. This topic is already covered at Kanhaiya Misl, therefore a standalone article is not needed. Koshuri ^(グ) 03:23, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Military, and India. Koshuri ^(グ) 03:23, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
• Delete Does not need a separate article, also not enough coverage. Agletarang (talk) 15:06, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
• Keep: Y'all think the closer will follow on this obvious canvassing? No, lol. I have to say, at least this nomination is not calling my creation as "hoax" like some others: [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Sikh–Wahhabi_War][https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Maha_Singh's_Invasions_of_Jammu][https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ahluwalia–Ramgarhia_War][https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Pathankot_Campaign]. "This topic is already covered at Kanhaiya Misl, therefore a standalone article is not needed.": Hilarious, guess who added that "already" content? [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kanhaiya_Misl&diff=prev&oldid=1258179252]. Koshuri, do a better WP:BEFORE. For the coverage it's easily getting enough writings of the crux only pointing how the siege went: [https://archive.org/details/HistoryOfTheSikhsVol.IvTheSikhCommonwealthOrRiseAndFallOfSikh/page/n269/mode/2up?q=Kangra][https://archive.org/details/HistoryOfTheSikhsVol.IvTheSikhCommonwealthOrRiseAndFallOfSikh/page/n333/mode/2up?q=Kangra] (4 pages) [https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.503171/page/n35/mode/2up] (3 pages). Heraklios 17:04, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

::The coverage is not enough to justify a standalone article, if you discount unrelated parts from the pages, the coverage comes down to half of the pages you are claiming. Whether you added the content or not is irrelevant, in fact you should have never created this article for it suffers from copyright and close paraphrasing issues. A TNT is needed.

class="wikitable" |+ Analysis ! Source[https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.503171/page/n32/mode/1up 22,25-27] !! Article
when the political power of the Sikhs was established in the plains of the Panjab. Then the Sikhs turned their attention to these hills. Their cupidity was aroused by the prosperous condition of the petty hill rajas who were unable to make any stand against them.	Once they consolidated themselves in the plains, the Sikhs began to turn towards the adjoining hill areas. The relatively prosperous condition of the petty hill rajas attracted Sikh interest, as these rulers lacked the means to mount a significant resistance.
The hill rajas could not resist the rising tide of the invaders, and they found their safety only in submission. Ghamand Chand was the first to yield and several others followed suit. They accepted the overlordship of a powerful neighbouring Sikh chief, promising to pay an annual tribute which did not amount/ to more than five per cent of the revenue.	When the Hill rajas could no longer resist the Sikh onslaught, they sought refuge in surrender. Many more acknowledged the Sikh overlordship after Ghamand Chand, who was among the first to do so. In return for security from future invasions, these monarchs agreed to pay an annual tribute. Unless the hill rajas sought Sikh involvement to settle their internal conflicts, this system usually guaranteed that they would remain undisturbed.
The supremacy of Jassa Singh Ramgarhia did not last very long, as in 1775 he was overthrown by his rival Jai Singh Kanhiya, whose overlordship was now accepted by most of the Kangra states. A year later Sansar Chand succeeded to the sovereignty of the hills. Being very ambitious he wished to take possession of the fort of Kangra, the ancient home of his ancestors.	However, Jassa Singh Ramgarhia's domination was brief. His opponent Jai Singh Kanhaiya defeated him in 1778 and went on to rule over the majority of the Kangra region. Sansar Chand rose to prominence in the area by 1776. Sansar Chand was an ambitious as ruler who aimed to retake Kangra's fort, which was his family's ancestral home and a historic stronghold.
Sansar Chand made several attempts on the fort, but all were frustrated by Saif Ali Khan. The Raja invited assistance from Jai Singh Kanhiya promising to pay the expenses of the troops at the rate of Rs. 2,000 per day Jai Singh readily agreed, and sent his son Gurbakhsh Singh at the head of a strong contingent in the company of Baghel Singh Karorasinghia. The combined forces laid siege to the fort in 1782	On multiple occasions, Sansar Chand tried to take the Kangra fort, but Saif Ali Khan the Mughal faujdar of Kangra at that time frequently repulsed him. Sansar Chand was eager on accomplishing his goal and turned to Jai Singh Kanhaiya for help, promising to pay for the troops at a rate of Rs. 2,000 per day. After accepting the request, Jai Singh sent his son, Gurbakhsh Singh, and a large troop, which included Baghel Singh Karorasinghia. In 1782, the allied armies besieged the fort together.
In spite of all the rigour of the siege Saif Ali Khan remained steadfast But he was a dying man, and passed away in 1783. His dead body had to be conveyed to the burial ground outside the fort.	Saif Ali Khan was determined to defend the fort regardless of how severe the siege got. His health, however, declined, and he died in 1783. Following his death, plans were made to take his remains to be buried at the imambara outside the fort
Jiwan Khan, the son of late Saif Aii Khan, however, was bribed by Jai Singh’s men, and the young faujdar finding his position untenable, decided to hand over his fort to them.	Jiwan Khan, the new faujdar and son of the late Saif Ali Khan to surrender the fort for a bribe. Jiwan Khan made the decision to surrender the fort after seeing how fragile his position was. Jiwan Khan made the decision to surrender the fort after seeing how fragile his position was.}}

Koshuri ^(グ) 08:51, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

• Keep: There is coverage, and no copyright violation can be found here. The above analysis is pretty unconvincing, WP:TNT is used for copyright violations(and also other reasons that cannot be applied here,) however the content in this article does not even appear to be closely paraphrased. AlvaKedak (talk) 10:55, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
• Keep the case made by the nominator is unconvincing and the claims of copyvio are unfounded. RachelTensions (talk) 13:24, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
• Delete - per nom. The coverage is too little to warrant a separate article. Close paraphrased wording is also concerning. Zakaria ښه راغلاست (talk) 15:32, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
• Keep: Well notable. It's just needed a bit of cleanup and if close paraphrasing is abundant then that too can be fixed. Maniacal ! Paradoxical (talk) 15:40, 9 April 2025 (UTC)

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