Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Silvermoon Drive-in

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Prod declined with rationale of "Seems notable enough to me, there are very few in the state, one in the whole county, been around for more than 60 years, and has been mentioned in the news (local and otherwise.)" Longevity and "only one left" are not qualifications for notability if there are no sources — I've not been able to find any of the news mentions the editor said exist. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 19:41, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

• I really hate saying this because there's a lot of personal history when it comes to the Silvermoon... the Silvermoon makes a perfect "third" date, the movies are only 75 cents and the popcorn's really buttery, but none of that makes it notable so delete. VictorianMutant^(Talk) 00:08, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
• Keep: I'm surprised that TPH couldn't find any substantive news articles. In moments with Google News archive (with nothing more convoluted than "Silvermoon Drive-in" as a search term) I found several; one concerning its operation by a local church, one concerning its 50th anniversary bash and one about morality protests in 1976. With the GMA News article that makes four reliable sources, hitting the GNG going away.  Ravenswing  15:12, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

: I don't think any of those articles do anything more than mention the Silvermoon in passing. The article mentioning morality protests in 1976 talks about protesting "Gentlemen's Clubs" and interviews one of the church members saying "we oughta close down the Silvermoon, too" or something like that. Should the Silvermoon be mentioned in the Lakeland, Florida article? Absolutely! Should it have its own article? Part of me wants to scream out "Yes!" for hometown pride, but I realize it's only notable in the sense that a few dozen other drive-ins in the U.S. are notable for- a relic of the past which is barely hanging on. VictorianMutant^(Talk) 16:48, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

:: I don't think you've read all those articles if you believe they do nothing more than mention the Silvermoon in passing. The Tampa Tribune article is about the drive-in and its 50th anniversary celebration. The other Lakeland Ledger article is about the local church's takeover of the drive-in. The GMA Times article is about the drive-in. Whether or not you believe the drive-in has national significance or that it's a "relic of the past," significant mention in multiple reliable sources is a pass on the GNG.  Ravenswing  17:23, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

::: Did you even read the Ledger article you mentioned above? You've actually added erroneous material to the article in question! [http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=8aEsAAAAIBAJ&sjid=6_0DAAAAIBAJ&pg=6599,7162094&dq=silvermoon-drive-in&hl=en The Ledger article] you refer to is about a "mini" drive-in opened by a Presbyterian Church in Haines City. Read the caption on the picture in the article and it should become clear that the Silvermoon and the small theater owned by the church are not the same (Haines City and Lakeland are about 25 miles apart). A quick check of the Silvermoon [http://www.silvermoondrivein.com/home.html website] says it is still owned by Sun South. Where in the article does it mention anything about a takeover by a church? [http://www.gmanews.tv/story/127114/At-75-drive-in-movies-still-draw-fans The GMA article] is about the nostalgia of going to the drive-in; sure it features the Silvermoon, but the author could have just as easily chosen any one of the handful of drive-ins left in the U.S. Nothing in the article says anything notable about the Silvermoon. Proof that the subject of the article is the title which says "At 75, drive-in movies still draw fans". The drive-in theater (concept) is 75 years old, not the Silvermoon. As for the TBO [http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/tampatribune/access/28568970.html?dids=28568970:28568970&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&type=current&date=Apr+11,+1998&author=STEVE+NEWBORN&pub=Tampa+Tribune&desc=Silver+Moon+turns+golden+One+celluloid+dinosaur+has+managed+to+hang+on+in+Polk+County.+The+SilverMoon+Drive-In+is+poised+to+turn+50.&pqatl=google article], well we'd all better start writing because there are a lot of couples out there who have had 50th wedding anniversary articles printed in the newspaper and don't have Wikipedia articles abouth them. A fiftieth anniversary may be notable, but it is not encyclopedic unless the subject itself is notable... otherwise we would have hundreds of Mildred and Henry Jones type articles out there. VictorianMutant^(Talk) 05:03, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Keep, for the same reason as Ravenswing, several news stories about the theatre. Michael1115 (talk) 20:29, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
• Keep - Significant coverage does exist from reliable sources, from the Philippine GMA Network no less. Not many (if any) American drive-ins can make that claim. --Oakshade (talk) 22:23, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

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