Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Simon Caney

=[[Simon Caney]]=

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Placing for deletion because this person does not meet WP:PROF or any other biography guideline that I'm aware of, and also lacks anything in the way of reliable third party sources about the subject. Burntsauce 20:45, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete Unless someone turns up more substantial evidence of notability than what's there now, I can't really see keeping it. I A7ed it before but was swayed by the argument that professors are almost always notable. I'm very disinclined to grant sweeping notability to all members of a group. To me, it feels counter to notability and reliable source guidelines to give blanket and unquestioning entries to everyone in a group. Still, I'm always open to evidence of notability if it shows up. (sorry for the little rant there.) Pigman 21:12, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletions. Espresso Addict 21:18, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Easily meets WP:PROF - He's a Professor of politics at one of the best regarded universities in the world for politics and his book Justice Beyond Borders: A Global Political Theory is a set text in (graduate) university courses other than his own (e.g.[http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/intrel/ugcourses/IR3011.pdf St andrews]([http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:Yxjf11ydOwoJ:www.st-andrews.ac.uk/intrel/ugcourses/IR3011.pdf+%22Justice+Beyond+Borders+A+Global+Political+Theory%22+site:.ac.uk&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us&client=firefox-a google html cache]), [http://people.pwf.cam.ac.uk/mpo24/GlobalJustice2006.pdf Cambrige] [http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:eo5U-kk-lmIJ:people.pwf.cam.ac.uk/mpo24/GlobalJustice2006.pdf+%22Justice+Beyond+Borders+A+Global+Political+Theory%22+site:.ac.uk&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=us&client=firefox-a google cache)], there are plenty more). -- SiobhanHansa 21:43, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Thank you Siobhan, can you please tell me what reliable, non-trivial sources have written about Simon Caney? Most professors have published books, but that doesn't mean they automatically or easily meet WP:PROF. Quite the contrary. Burntsauce 21:50, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
  • WP:PROF includes The person is regarded as an important figure by independent academics in the same field.; and The person has published a significant and well-known academic work. An academic work may be significant or well known if, for example, it is the basis for a textbook or course. I think the two uses of Caney's text I included above indicate both these things, and as I said, there are plenty more. Other independent academics, at well respected universities, are saying Caney's work is necessary reading for graduate level study - that's a strong endorsement of his standing. -- SiobhanHansa 21:59, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep per Siobhan. Being published by the Oxford University Press demonstrates notability, at least among the general class of the literate. VivianDarkbloom 22:07, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment. The book was reviewed in The Journal of Moral Philosophy (DOI:10.1177/174046810600300109) and Perspectives on Politics (DOI:10.1017/S1537592707070636), so that's multiple reliable secondary sources. But per WP:BLP1E I'd like to see more than just that one thing about Caney to be convinced he's notable for himself. —David Eppstein 23:54, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

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