Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Skeletons (Wednesday 13 album)

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Sources on page are no good, one being the artist's website and the other being an AllMusic page with no published review or rating. And I couldn't find any additional reliable coverage, not even the Kerrang! review which the article suggests exists (though I wouldn't doubt that it does and just isn't archived). But even so, Kerrang! alone would not save this article, and I haven't seen coverage which would. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 12:00, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 12:00, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

• Keep I got incidentally involved with this while doing some work on the list of 2008 albums article. After I removed an unreliable source for this album there, the entry as a whole was challenged. A couple casual searches didn't find decent sourcing apart from [http://iamhighvoltage.com/2008/08/21/wednesday-13-skeletons/ a review] by High Voltage Magazine (incidentally, HVM might be an AfD candidate), and my restoration was reverted, and I was referred to this AfD. I was thinking that this probably was a good AfD candidate, but after a more comprehensive search, I'd now say definitely keep. In addition to the possible Kerrang! review, there's reviews by Metal Hammer Germany [https://www.metal-hammer.de/reviews/wednesday-13-skeletons-review/], Metal.de [https://www.metal.de/reviews/wednesday-13-skeletons-10112/], and (albeit less impressively) [https://www.metalfan.nl/reviews.php?id=4756 MetalFan.nl].--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 12:52, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
• :Important to note that 3family6 added Metal.de to RSMUSIC without any prior discussion, but it was removed right after with a request that such a discussion be had first. 3family6 did start that discussion here, but it has not received any responses yet. There is a good case being made there, but I haven't looked into it myself and can't speak to the source beyond that. All this to say that source's reliability is still an open question, and if it were rejected then that would leave us at just (presumably, if someone can find the Kerrang! review) two reliable sources, which I think is too thin a margin to pass this. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 23:02, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

::: That's fair to disclose. I will make clear that I've used this source for years, as have many others, and it has never been challenged.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 10:45, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

:::To clarify, the reliability of the source wasn't questioned, rather my unilateral addition to it to the reliable sources list without discussion.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 13:25, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

:::{{u|QuietHere}}, it looks like consensus is that Metal.de is reliable, and the editor who challenged the addition did so more out of wanting to make sure that there is discussion. Caveat that participation so far in the discussion has been fairly minimal.-- 3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 13:25, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

::::Yeah, you're probably right about that. However, I don't think that alone resolves the matter of this album's notability. We still only have two confirmed reliable sources, metal.de and Metal Hammer, and the assumption that the Kerrang! review is out there somewhere. I'm not convinced that that's enough. If nobody else is going to participate in this discussion, I'd rather it close as no consensus as to not discourage other editors from renominating it. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 15:29, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 14:04, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Benison (Beni · talk) 14:52, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

• Redirect to Wednesday 13: not finding enough to merit a separate article, but would suggest redirect as alternative to deletion. Rainydaywindows (talk) 07:29, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
• :Forgot to say above but I also support this redirect. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 08:00, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

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