Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Smart Destinations

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Clear and unambiguous advertising, created by a serial sockpuppeteer. Nothing to indicate that this company meets Wikipedia notability guidelines. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:45, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

I'm endeavoring to make the page more neutral. Djadvance (talk) 15:01, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

:Neutrality isn't really the issue - notability is. We need significant evidence from third-party sources that the company meets WP:Notability (organizations). AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:05, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

:Fair enough. Smart Destinations has been covered in major news sources, which I will now add refs to. From my reading of the notability guidelines, they seem to fit the requirements. Djadvance (talk) 15:12, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Massachusetts-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:36, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:36, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

• Delete: A superficial glance at the reference list would indeed give the impression that there are sources which satisfy the GNG and WP:CORP. Actually reviewing the sources, however, and each and every one of them fails of being a reliable, independent, third-party source which discusses the subject in the "significant detail" the GNG requires. The Boston Globe ref, for instance, is a bunch of bulletpoints for six different events, apps and products, all obviously parroted from press releases. The ABC Local ref consists of product touts and quotes from a company rep, something the GNG explicitly debars as a measure of notability. The blogposts -- and they are blogposts -- from the NY Times and NBC websites are blatant product touts and read like press releases, something common to many of the refs. Ravenswing 22:07, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

• Comment I found some source from brief Google news search: [http://www.consumerelectronicsnet.com/article/Smart-Destinations-Continues-Mobile-Tech-Innovation-with-New-Digital-Go-Orlando-Card-3124515 Consumer Electronics], [http://www.virtual-strategy.com/2014/03/04/go-los-angeles-card%C2%AE-now-top-attractions-pass-hollywood Virtual Strategy Magazine], [http://noticias.universia.net.co/actualidad/noticia/2014/03/19/1089315/educacion-tema-principal-catedra-europea.html Universia Noticias], and [http://www.jewishjournal.com/wesaidgotravel/item/hooping_for_happiness_in_hawaii Jewish Journal]. Trivial coverage in [http://www.streetinsider.com/Press+Releases/Smart+Destinations+Continues+Mobile+Tech+Innovation+with+New+Digital+Go+Orlando+Card%E2%84%A2/9290246.html Street Insider] and [http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/smart-meetings-magazine-launches-tv-special-smart-destinations-the-best-of-2013-featuring-the-winners-of-the-smart-stars-awards-234111591.html PR News Wire] (appears to be press releases). There may be more sources at least two of these source are reliable and the company has been covered by multiple sources, internationally. Valoem ^talk 20:14, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

:*Comment: Err ... the first two of those links are explicitly press releases (and are in fact the same press release), with a link to the full press release at the bottom of each. The second two mention the subject in a single sentence only, something explicitly debarred as supporting notability by WP:GNG. Ravenswing 22:15, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

:: Thanks for the clarification I wasn't sure if they were, but my main questions was the Jewish Journal source, more citations are definitely needed, it does not seem to pass GNG as of now. Valoem ^talk 22:49, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

:::The Jewish Journal source is nothing but a passing mention, in a self-described blog that gives a strong impression (to me at least) of being intentionally promotional. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:11, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

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:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 16:05, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

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