Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Somerled the Viking Slayer

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Clear POV fork of Somerled after someone appears to have lost a discussion. forked from [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Somerled&oldid=510727353]. No copyright attribution given to the older version either. IRWolfie- (talk) 11:05, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your opinion, however this article refers to Somerled the Viking Slayer not Somerled the Viking and is a discussion of the traditional documented lineage of Somerled not a fringe argument that Somerled is a Viking. All material on this page is my original work which has been cited and therefore does not need a copyright attribution to a previous page. Deletion of this article in preference to a racially biased and contentious fringe argument that Somerled is a Viking is unconstructive. All of this work is original and is not a POV fork but based on established genealogies of Somerled and traditional lineages extensively documented by reputable sources not pop science and false premises.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Moidart (talkcontribs) 12:33, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

  • Delete: this page may serve to distract Moidart from Somerled but it could also confuse uninvolved and unwary users of Wikipedia. (If there is clear evidence of well established "clan traditions" relating to Somerled, I would not object to their appearance in a brief and clearly defined paragraph somewhere in his article.) 45ossington (talk) 13:04, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Delete as an unacceptable POV fork of Somerled. Both articles are about the same person, although this is not made clear to reader. The only difference is that the creator of Somerled the Viking Slayer, wishes categorically to refute suggestions that Somerled may have had Norse ancestors. The way forward is to reach a consensus at Somerled on how to treat the genetic studies, the linguistic evidence concerning the Norse origins of the subject's name and those of his descendants, and "clan traditions" in a balanced and neutral way. But it should certainly not involve the blatant use of synthesis found here. Voceditenore (talk) 15:03, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Scotland-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:40, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:40, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

  • Speedily deleted as duplicate of existing article. Plainly about the same chap - even copy/pasta'd some of the content. Elen of the Roads (talk) 22:59, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Speedy delete as POV fork. To suggest that the articles are about two different people does not help. Note: the article was deleted by Elen of the Roads[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Somerled+the+Viking+Slayer] and then restored by Moidart. Please block Moidart. Mathsci (talk) 07:10, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

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