Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sound International

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Tagged for notability for over 5 years; couldn't establish notability. Boleyn (talk) 10:57, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

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• Delete. The magazine existed, as [http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=AiUEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PT76&dq=%22sound+international%22+magazine&hl=en&sa=X&ei=1-3yUIyQKIa00QWGuICAAw&ved=0CFUQ6AEwBzgK this] Billboard article confirms, but I could find no other coverage and no indication that an encyclopedia article is justified. --Michig (talk) 17:26, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:32, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:32, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

• Keep  IncubateSources are our lifeblood, and our ability to judge them is aided by reading our own articles.  The magazine is recognized by the world library system at [http://www.worldcat.org/title/sound-international/oclc/7021497&referer=brief_results Worldcat].  If notability were really a problem, which doesn't appear to be the case, then the material could be merged.  Nominator is on Nomination is part of a [http://toolserver.org/~snottywong/cgi-bin/afdstats.cgi?name=Boleyn&max=250&startdate=20130116&altname= deletion spree], and did not report here the [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatLinksHere&target=Sound+International&namespace= "What Links Here"], and also might have considered the times that [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=link+house+publications&go=Go&title=Special%3ASearch "Link House Publications"] appears in the encyclopedia.  Unscintillating (talk) 02:20, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

:: I have to confess to being quite confused by your argument - you are saying because there may be articles which rely on this journal that it should have its own article? As far as I can see from your link, there is only one article which cites this and I should probably be thinking about nominating that article for deletion after a bit more research. ---- _nonsense ferret 02:48, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

::*I see two articles and several Wikiprojects linking to this magazine.  Unscintillating (talk) 02:53, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

::*In order to prepare the community for a proposal to remove material from the encyclopedia, nominations are requested at WP:Articles for deletion (WP:BEFORE) to follow a number of steps which provide information to AfD participants.  One of these steps is to check the "What Links Here".  No one has reported here on why these links exist.  Unscintillating (talk) 02:53, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

::*Notability of a magazine is not coupled to topics that use the magazine as a reliable source, so if an article that uses Sound International as a reliable source is deleted, this in no way is a reason to remove material about the magazine.  Unscintillating (talk) 02:53, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

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• Delete I couldn't find any evidence of notability. --Cerebellum (talk) 22:43, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

:*Have you considered a merge or redirect target?  Unscintillating (talk) 02:53, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

:::Yes, I agree that a merge/redirect would be preferable to outright deletion, but I couldn't find anything that looked like a suitable target. Link House Publications would be a good choice but it doesn't exist. Do you have any other suggestions? --Cerebellum (talk) 18:05, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

::::I seem to recall that there is a Wikiproject attempting to get articles on publishers, but I don't recall where that is.  What about incubation, until the right people can get involved?  I've changed my !vote to incubate.  Unscintillating (talk) 00:20, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

• Comment  The major contributor to this article, Relen, has not been contacted.  Unscintillating (talk) 00:20, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

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