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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Spinghar TV

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. Michig (talk) 18:04, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

=[[Spinghar TV]]=

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Fails WP:ORG as I can't find any reliable sources about it. David1217 What I've done 02:53, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

  • Comment - According to the article, "Spinghar TV is locally available in Nangarhar, Kabul, Parwan, Kunduz, Takhar, Balkh, Peshawar, Mardan, Qutta, Karachi, Swat Trabal Aria and Torkham. It transmits hourly news, current affairs programs, entertainment programs, politics programs, sports programs and criminal incidents programs. Spinghar TV offers a current affairs Programme (نن سبا) from Quetta, the capital of Balochistan. In Pakistan this programme has become popular. The program discusses basic questions regarding the constitution, rule of law, Pashtun affairs and democracy in political parties." If we assume those assertions to be true, a plausible notion, then I'd say that we'd likely be making a mistake by simply deleting the article. It's quite possible that we're either overlooking or cannot even access relevant source material, seeing as it is primarily in an obscure language in a less-than-connected part of the world. We should probably first be having a conversation about whether to redirect the title to a regional article about the general subject, or whether we can find someone more familiar with the Afghan media. Also, for research reference, the station's [https://www.facebook.com/spenghar Facebook page] reveals activity and [https://www.facebook.com/spenghar/likes trends] that appear commensurate with comparable Pashto stations, and somewhat humorously, [http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s720x720/539226_374285775977200_1620486645_n.jpg their official logo] is a direct derivative of [http://www.adventureshop.co.nz/media/upload/image/SportivaLogo.jpg Sportiva's.]   — C M B J   04:44, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
  • I couldn't find any web sources. If book sources can be found, that's great (where could we look, I wonder?) but if it's too obscure, it should be deleted because it fails WP:V. David1217 What I've done 01:42, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Generally speaking, I'm of the position that viable non-English articles should be held closer to the inclusion standards of yesteryear until such areas of our project are proportionally mature. In this case, I agree that we've got to at least reasonably establish that the station is roughly what it claims to be — which hasn't yet been done — and that's why I took no position on whether we actually keep the article at this point in time. As for further research, there appear to be several videos on YouTube (e.g., [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm9SzLYizo0 here]) that closely resemble what is described in the 'SPINGHAR in Europe' section, though they reference [http://www.spinghar.tv/ Spinghar.tv] (the original dead link in this article) and [https://www.facebook.com/spinghartv.tv facebook/spinghartv.tv] as opposed to [http://spenghar.com/ spenghar.com] and [https://www.facebook.com/spenghar facebook/spenghar]; it's unclear whether or not the former is an affiliate of the latter, though it seems somewhat unlikely because both have unique logos, production values, and ongoing Facebook posts. There are also rudimentary mentions of "Spin Ghar" internews station in a [http://www.iec.org.af/jemb.org/media_commission/pdf/interim_report_14-09-05_eng.pdf 2005 Afghan Media Commission Interim Report] and "Spin Ghar Film" production company in a [http://www.altaiconsulting.com/docs/media/2010/12.%20Nangarhar%20-%20Jalalabad%20City.pdf 2010 USAID Priority District Report], though both reports precede the date of founding described in our article.   — C M B J   10:21, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Afghanistan-related deletion discussions. —Tom Morris (talk) 07:37, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. —Tom Morris (talk) 07:37, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —Tom Morris (talk) 11:30, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —Tom Morris (talk) 16:25, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

  • Delete - I didn't find anything for Spinghar TV. The article probably is misnamed, but I also searched for Spinghar and anything related to television and didn't find anything. Per the Wikipedia article, the station was launched in early 2012, so it makes sense that there has not been much written up on the topic. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 03:25, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Delete as practically unverifiable for the time being.   — C M B J   14:28, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.