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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stevie Ocean

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was DELETE. postdlf (talk) 17:12, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

=[[Stevie Ocean]]=

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My concern is that this is an elaborate hoax of some sort.

None of the inline references given support any of the allegations in the article; one is a link to a documentary about brothers lost in Albania, one is a blurb about a DJ named Rob Gallichan that doesn't mention Stevie Ocean, and one is a 404 link at the Jersey Arts Trust. The external links are a bunch of pages that could easily be about a non-notable but real person named Stevie Ocean but equally could have been created from whole cloth to prop up the hoax. The assertions in the article are so full of peacock language that they seem outlandish.

A quick Google search reveals tons of message boards, blogs, etc. mentioning Stevie Ocean but often with no connection to the actual subject of the post. It's like they were trying to spam Google with the name. I'm getting the sense that this is either a non-notable person with the largest and least competent PR department in human history or a hoax perpetrated by a large number of people having a laugh on the world. NellieBly (talk) 02:39, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

  • Comment There was a documentary entitled Whatever Happened to Stevie Ocean that was made as part of the first season of Channel 4's The Other Side in which film-makers, both professional and amateur, were given a camera to go and make a documentary. Whether that can be regarded as a reliable source is doubtful. The documentary is here, by the way:

::[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B58ZNAu7yQs Part 1]

::[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clzGTQZa1lM Part 2]

::[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOb2Kfle_dk Part 3]

::[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMVCB2_1uAA Part 4]

::[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwlxmud8LS0 Part 5]

::[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stXGXETPpYg Part 6]

:Catfish Jim & the soapdish 11:01, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

::Are you sure about that? There's nothing on the [http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-other-side/episode-guide episode guide] and no search results from channel4.com. Hyperdoctor Phrogghrus (talk) 11:22, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

:::The episode guide on Channel 4's site only appears to go back to 2005, whereas the series goes back at least to 1999. Episodes are listed on the [http://ftvdb.bfi.org.uk/sift/series/32031 BFI site]. Catfish Jim & the soapdish 11:33, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

::::I see, thanks. Hyperdoctor Phrogghrus (talk) 16:04, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

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  • Delete as highly dubious article with apparently faked footnotes, judging by a peek at FN1. Includes this tidbit, which gets my bullshit detector whirring: He has released 4 albums (cassette release only), selling 1,600,000 units worldwide. NOTHING is gonna sell that many units without other more lucrative formats being made. Probable hoax. Carrite (talk) 19:09, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Comment The "1,600,000" was a recent edit: the original number was 16,000. I would call the edit vandalism but it's hard to separate the wheat from the chaff here, which is what set off *my* bullshit meter. --NellieBly (talk) 04:40, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

:::It doesn't matter what the number is, the fact it's being argued about here is an indication that it is not reliably sourced. Almost all the material in this BLP comes from a Youtube video claimed to be an archive of a documentary. That is not a reliable source to base a BLP on. Hyperdoctor Phrogghrus (talk) 06:21, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

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