Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stingray Sam (2nd nomination)

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no sign of satisfying notability guidelines in Wikipedia:Notability (films). Only real claim to notability is showing at some film festivals. Such showing does not appear to have attracted any significant coverage from independent reliable sources. Duffbeerforme (talk) 00:19, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

• Delete. Non-notable film. Appearences at film festivals (some of them minor) and subsequent coverage of the appearence by local media doesn't really seem notable. Niteshift36 (talk) 16:17, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
• Weak Keep. Minor coverage from small papers and online blogs. Should be a stub and see what else comes of it. Aliveatoms (talk) 00:53, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –Juliancolton | ^Talk 00:08, 22 July 2009 (UTC){{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stingray Sam (2nd nomination)||}}

• Delete Needs reliable sources to establish notability, not blogs. Wikipedia is only as reliable as its sources. Drawn Some (talk) 00:45, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
• Weak keep Nontrivial coverage in io9 (which is an RS by my understanding), and screening at a half-dozen notable film festivals (including Sundance), it defies logic that there isn't at least one more source out there. —Noisalt (talk) 01:08, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
• The wikipedia article on io9 suggests the site is a blog. A recent article in SFX magazine (June 2009) suggests io9 is a blog. Not a reliable source. Duffbeerforme (talk) 14:38, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
• Note, however, that blogs are not inherently unreliable. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 00:25, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. -- the wub "?!" 09:27, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
• Keep per additional sources found through WP:AFTER: [http://www.watoday.com.au/news/entertainment/film/a-star-reborn/2008/11/27/1227491711027.html WA today - Nov 28, 2008], [http://www.parool.nl/parool/nl/21/FILM/article/detail/235798/2009/04/07/Kredietcrisis-treft-ook-filmfestival-Imagine.dhtml Parool - Apr 7, 2009], [http://www.telegraaf.nl/reiskrant/3702550/__Vertrouwd_griezelen_op_vernieuwd_Imagine__.html De Telegraaf - Apr 14, 2009], [http://www.trouw.nl/cultuur/film/article2731028.ece/Bloedzuigende_tieners_en_gere_iuml_ncarneerde_magiers__.html Trouw - Apr 16, 2009], [http://www.explorebaltimorecounty.com/entertainment/98882/opening-credit/ Explore Baltimore county - May 7, 2009], and [http://baltimore.metromix.com/movies/photogallery/maryland-film-festival-2009/1167521/content Baltimore Metromix - May 17, 2009], [http://www.quietearth.us/articles/2009/03/04/Review-of-Cory-McAbees-postmodern-masterpiece-STINGRAY-SAM Quiet Earth], [http://festival.sundance.org/2009/film_events/films/stingray_sam Sundance Film Festival], [http://twitchfilm.net/site/view/hey-new-york-cory-mcabees-stingray-sam-screening-on-saturday/ Twitchfilm], [http://www.md-filmfest.com/films.cfm?id=161 Maryland Film Festival], [http://www.wbff.org/films/detail.asp?fid=995 Brooklyn International Film Festival], et al. Allowing the stub to remain and grow improves the project. MichaelQSchmidt (talk) 20:56, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
• Looking at some of Michael's links, I see only mentions of the subject. Many repeated mentions don't satisfy WP:N. Michael, would you please, for two reliable independent sources, point out the significant coverage of the subject. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 13:05, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
• Notability of films requires more than a listing of this film is playing here as provided by Michael. Of the links provided only one (quietearth) has anything that might be considered significant coverage in independent reliable sources. Duffbeerforme (talk) 14:31, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
• Keep. There are many notable sources as Sundance, io9, Quiet Earth, etc. It was also in second place (very nearly first being beat out by Let the Right One In) for the Silver Scream award in Amsterdam's Fantastic Film Festival [http://thesmalleststar.blogspot.com/2009/05/stingray-sam-diary-april-may.html ].--DrWho42 (talk) 19:18, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

• Keep - Sufficient secondary reliable sources to meet notability requirements in my opinion. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 00:27, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

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