Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Suzanne Goh

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BLP, fails GNG and NBIO. Sources in article are primary written by subject, BEFORE showed nothing from WP:IS WP:RS with WP:SIGCOV which addresses the topic directly and in-depth. WP:BLPs require strong sourcing  // Timothy :: talk  21:12, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

• Delete: For the reasons stated in the nomination. I culled all the ridiculous puffery, and there's now no evidence of notability. BoyTheKingCanDance (talk) 21:23, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Academics and educators and Medicine. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:40, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:40, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
• Comment, leaning Keep. (As an aside, I very much dislike the habit of gutting an article and then taking it to AfD looking like a microstub. I'd suggest participants look in the history for a fuller picture of this researcher; some of the material removed seems unproblematic to me. In particular the fact the subject was a Rhodes scholar is confirmed by many Proquest hits.) Just looking at GS, there seem to be some fairly highly cited research papers (287,178,169,97,80), perhaps enough to meet WP:PROF though it's a high-citation field. Espresso Addict (talk) 22:10, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

::Proquest finds a short review of her coauthored book Spectacular Bond: Reaching the Child with Autism, though I think it's in the Washington Post blog, not the newspaper (Williams, Mari-Jane. New parenting books focus on food allergies, autism and why there is no perfect mom. The Washington Post (Online) 2013). Also quite a lot of Proquest coverage of her company in the San Diego Business Journal. Espresso Addict (talk) 01:52, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

• There was copyvio in the history, which I have now marked for revdel; the majority of the content came from [https://www.corticacare.com/bios/suzanne-goh here]. [https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/727188/magnificent-minds-by-suzanne-goh-md/ These] [https://www.drsuzannegoh.com/about two] citations were also in the history and not the current article, so I'm leaving them here so they don't get lost with the revdel. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 01:15, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

::Ah, that's a shame. Espresso Addict (talk) 01:52, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

• Comment. On Newspapers Extended I found articles mentioning the Rhodes scholarship and a 2023 Boston Globe article mentioning her in connection with symptoms of early onset autism, but not SIGCOV on her. I share @Espresso Addict's disdain for the practice of gutting a page before or in the midst of an AfD; it makes it harder for editors to do research and looks like there's a thumb on the scale. She's also quoted here[https://www.nymetroparents.com/article/mitomedical-chief-medical-officer-comments-on-autism-research] from her MitoMedical days. I wish I had access to the pre-revdel versions. BBQboffin (talk) 17:37, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
• :Scopus[https://www.scopus.com/results/authorNamesList.uri?sort=count-f&src=al&sid=6ea0fe4b99e432f29086305432f63d50&sot=al&sdt=al&sl=48&s=AUTHLASTNAME%28Goh%29+AND+AUTHFIRST%28Suzanne+Pei+Lin%29&st1=Goh&st2=Suzanne+Pei+Lin&orcidId=&selectionPageSearch=anl&reselectAuthor=false&activeFlag=true&showDocument=false&resultsPerPage=20&offset=1&jtp=false¤tPage=1&previousSelectionCount=0&tooManySelections=false&previousResultCount=0&authSubject=LFSC&authSubject=HLSC&authSubject=PHSC&authSubject=SOSC&exactAuthorSearch=false&showFullList=false&authorPreferredName=&origin=searchauthorfreelookup&affiliationId=&txGid=dffcf9e1ded3bf740e0a699a0e49d825] has her h-index at 13 which is low compared to others, but on her top-cited papers on Google Scholar she's the lead author, so is that a pass for WP:NPROF? BBQboffin (talk) 19:10, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:13, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

• Delete. She does not pass NPROF and the "average professor test", her citations on GS and Scopus are similar to other PIS (with 3 papers with 100+ citations) at this career stage in her field which is a high citation field. Also, an early career award like the Rhodes generally doesnt contribute to NPROF notability. It seems she also doesnt pass GNG. --hroest 15:23, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
• Delete. WP:Prof not yet passed. Looks like commercial puffery. Xxanthippe (talk) 22:26, 6 November 2023 (UTC).

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