Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/System Information

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Article does not have a single source and does not meet notability requirements. Search finds a lot of references to System Information on Windows (wrong subject) and many sources that prove OS X is notable (wrong subject again). Codename Lisa (talk) 09:07, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

• Weak Delete Few reliable sources about this that aren't primary, and those that do don't seem to delve deeply into the topic. Nwlaw63 (talk) 13:10, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:53, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

• Keep - It's a utility that has been with the OS for more than a decade and the first resort for anyone wanting to know anything about their Mac. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 10:42, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
• Merge - to Mac OS or another relevant article. The subject has no established notability; that it is a tool for a notable operating system doesn't mean notability is inherited from it. Since the article does not warrant a separate article on Wikipedia, the appropriate thing seems to be to merge it into a notable, relevant article so that the information is retained as appropriate. - Aoidh (talk) 05:07, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

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:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Michaelzeng7 (talk) 01:57, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

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• Keep A quick Google search shows that this essential utility in the form of System Information and its previous name System Profiler, has been treated in depth in books from reputable publishers such as [http://books.google.com/books?id=eXd_eNdm_j8C&pg=PA678&dq=%22System+Profiler%22+OSX+-wikipedia&hl=en&sa=X&ei=WtNGUqb-JqKEygGYkoDIBg&ved=0CDkQ6AEwAjgK#v=onepage&q=%22System%20Profiler%22%20OSX%20-wikipedia&f=false Sams Publishing] and [http://books.google.com/books?id=VeWU70M9YMMC&pg=PA444&dq=%22System+Information%22+OSX+-wikipedia&hl=en&sa=X&ei=CtJGUvy7DYTGrQGa24CYAQ&ved=0CEoQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=%22System%20Information%22%20OSX%20-wikipedia&f=false O'Reilly Media], and in articles in reputable web sites, such as [http://www.peachpit.com/guides/content.aspx?g=mac&seqNum=47 Peachpit]. Multiple in depth RS independent of Apple show the topic to be notable. A notable topic and an article with no insurmountable problems, per WP:SURMOUNTABLE, suggest keeping the article. --Mark viking (talk) 13:30, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Computing-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 12:59, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

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:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Michaelzeng7 (talk) 02:21, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

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• Merge to Mac OS and then delete the redirect. Do Apple users not realize that "system information" is a commonly used phrase throughout computing and beyond? At the moment the information is worth a section in a larger article. In the event that it aggregates enough information to make a stand-alone article then it can be split out with a better title. Dingo1729 (talk) 16:19, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

::Note that it is impossible to both merge and delete the redirect, as the source article's edit history must be retained to provide attribution for the merged contents. See Wikipedia:Merge and delete. Michaelzeng7 (talk) 23:58, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

:::Quoting from the link you provided: "An advanced editor who wishes to argue for a merge and delete should make clear why the redirect would be unacceptable." So I just promoted myself to an "advanced editor" and I already said why the redirect is unacceptable (well, undesirable), Again, the same link gives detailed instructions on how to do a Merge and Delete. Dingo1729 (talk) 02:48, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

:::::That sounds good to me. Thanks for the response, Mr. Advanced Editor. ;-) Michaelzeng7 (talk) 02:49, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

• Merge While it's a stand-alone application, and debating its merit based on the product's name isn't particularly useful (Dingo1729), it's does not meet any notability guidelines and it makes more sense to discuss it in general on the operating system's page. Walter Görlitz (talk) 01:42, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

• Keep but then consider a merge to OS X. Notability established by [http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-to-view-mac-os-x-snow-leopards-system-informat.html] and [http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/how-to-find-your-macs-system-information-and-why-you-need-it]. I've added some merge banners. ~KvnG 18:34, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

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