Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/TOPCAT (software)

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Prodded with "Notable? dubious, prodding". Contested with "Where exactly is the harm in leaving this article be? It is neither nonsense nor written like an advertisement, and Wikipedia, being digital, is not bound by limits on physical size or weight; your book shelves are not going to collapse by leaving the article here. Instead of coming up with ever more stringent a-priori requirements on "notability", ask yourself "could this information one day be of use to someone?". Create, don't destroy." So, um, yeah. Immigrant laborer (talk) 17:07, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Computing-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 18:16, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 18:17, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

• Comment: Horribly underdeveloped article not currently fit for mainspace. Nom has not seemed to be bothered to notify creator and possibly dePRODer. Not added to relevant WikiProjects on talk page and and weak on the categories front. No one seems to have tried tagging templates first before presenting to AfD. If it wasn't that I have just been looking an another graphical software that had it origins in Astrophysics I wouldn't probably have given this one a second glance and probably pointed at the dustbin. Common searches will normally yield a lot of results equating to an Officer Dibble related pussycat or various other software called Topcat, which is I suppose a change from everyone calling there software Phoenix. I do however notice the product is of a substantial and sustained nature and have found http://starlink.eao.hawaii.edu/docs/sc22.htx/sc22ch5.html a mini recommendation from Hawaii indicating a flicker of hope and [http://www.g-vo.org/pmwiki/uploads/VOWorkshop/topcat.pdf this from GAVO] is also supportive but there'll possibly be a tad more than these to save. The thing will require a rescue attempt to stay.Djm-leighpark (talk) 05:50, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

*Keep: Revised article addresses concerns.Djm-leighpark (talk) 13:44, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

• Delete - does not meet WP:NSOFTWARE (has not been "recognized as having historical or technical significance by reliable sources.") - the "Where exactly is the harm in leaving this article be?" argument is addressed at WP:HARMLESS in Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions - Epinoia (talk) 03:41, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

• Comment: I'm not sure I'm comfortable with the effective misquoting of WP:NSOFT nor the over weighting of the scummering of the PRODer {{U|IByte}} behind from what seems to be behind their back.Djm-leighpark (talk) 04:35, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
• :WP:NSOFT/WP:NSOFTWARE is not a guideline, and it has never been approved by the community through RfC. The applicable guideline for TOPCAT is WP:GNG. — Newslinger talk 21:53, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

• Keep- reluctantly, I find myself having to agree that Djm-leighpark's additions and improvements seem to have addressed the reasons for deletion. Reyk _YO! 11:19, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
• Keep. Meets WP:GNG. I've added two more open access academic sources (found through Google Scholar and JSTOR) to the article. — Newslinger talk 13:14, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
• :Borderline. I'm striking my previous position, as MDPI (one of the added sources) has a questionable history. — Newslinger talk 13:03, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
• Delete: This has been here too long. Just have your way and bin it forever as that's what everyone wants.Djm-leighpark (talk) 20:02, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
• :Deletion is certainly not what I want. Here are the two sources I've added, which should qualify the article under WP:GNG:
• :#{{cite journal |last1=Taylor |first1=Mark |title=TOPCAT: Desktop Exploration of Tabular Data for Astronomy and Beyond |journal=Informatics |date=27 June 2017 |volume=4 |issue=3 |pages=18 |doi=10.3390/informatics4030018 |doi-access=free |publisher=MDPI}}
• :#{{cite journal |last1=Comparato |first1=M. |last2=Becciani |first2=U. |last3=Costa |first3=A. |last4=Larsson |first4=B. |last5=Garilli |first5=B. |last6=Gheller |first6=C. |last7=Taylor |first7=J. |title=Visualization, Exploration, and Data Analysis of Complex Astrophysical Data |journal=Publications of the Astronomical Society of the Pacific |date=August 2007 |volume=119 |issue=858 |pages=898–913 |doi=10.1086/521375 |doi-access=free |publisher=Astronomical Society of the Pacific |jstor=10.1086/521375 |jstor-access=free |bibcode=2007PASP..119..898C |bibcode-access=free |arxiv=0707.2474 }}
• :— Newslinger talk 21:56, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

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