Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tanzim Qaedat al-Jihad

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WP:BEFORE: [https://web.archive.org/web/20091019124131/http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,26087158-601,00.html][http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4661386.stm][https://worldview.stratfor.com/article/indonesia-ji-militant-noordin-tops-new-group]

This seems to me to be a case of a non-notable terrorist group per WP:GROUP (all the coverage is not all that significant nor show any WP:LASTING impact). Some of the articles I thought were going to be on this group were about the temporary rename of some militant metagroup in Syria. If this is somehow kept, it's likely going to just be a permastub. {{smh|text=no}} –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 04:26, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

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• Keep, but not strongly. I can also see a case for a redirect to Noordin Mohammad Top because most coverage of the group appears principally to be of him. Reliable sources nonetheless tell us a fair bit about the group, and enough to get the article out of stub territory. [https://www.jstor.org/stable/26297431?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents This] links it to the 2009 Jakarta bombings. [https://www.hudson.org/content/researchattachments/attachment/1282/jones_smith_vol12.pdf This] source makes the same link and then has details about the end of the group in February 2010. There is also a BBC article with a fair bit of detail from the time of the group's formation: [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4661386.stm]. [http://futuredirections.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/1266991773-FDIStrategicAnalysisPaper-17February2010.pdf This] has details of the group's leadership after Top's death. As does [https://worldview.stratfor.com/article/indonesia-surrender-top-deputy this], which appears to be a reliable source. So I think there is enough. --Mkativerata (talk) 08:42, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

• Keep or merge with Noordin Mohammad Top, although I would be leery of that option given the group’s continued existence after his death. Horse Eye Jack (talk) 17:09, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

• Weak Keep. At the very least - a merge to Noordin Mohammad Top is in the offing, however I do see continuing coverage of this post-2009 - e.g. [https://books.google.co.il/books?id=R9O3CgAAQBAJ&pg=PA2008-IA6&dq=%22Tanzim+Qaedat+al-Jihad%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjcvpbdx8XjAhWPKewKHcnrAhgQ6AEIODAC#v=onepage&q=%22Tanzim%20Qaedat%20al-Jihad%22&f=false]. I would consider renaming this to Al-Qaeda in Malay Peninsula (per [https://books.google.co.il/books?id=D0-oz5GDeHsC&pg=PA38&lpg=PA38&dq=%22al-Qaeda+in+Malay+Peninsula%22&source=bl&ots=zLRluz9ArU&sig=ACfU3U3dyWlKR_20tGK_T0CyKW7d3dBkCA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiG4cLmx8XjAhVIDOwKHRvaAPgQ6AEwAnoECAQQAQ#v=onepage&q=%22al-Qaeda%20in%20Malay%20Peninsula%22&f=false]) as there are multiple "Tanzim Qaedat al-Jihad fi somewhere else" which are not related (beyond sharing militant Islamism). Icewhiz (talk) 08:15, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

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