Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Themyscira (DC Comics)

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Tone 07:52, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

=[[:Themyscira (DC Comics)]]=

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I've prodded this fictional location with a rationale that there is no indication this fictional location passes GNG/WP:NFICTION/WP:PLOT. Primary sources only, no real world significance, BEFORE fails to find anything that's not a plot summary or listing of mentions in various media (comics, movies, games, whatever). There is no in-depth analysis of this location in any non-primary work. This was deprodded by User:Jhenderson777 with a comment that "It’s in poor shape but indeed notable". Well, ok, can anyone demonstrate said notability for this here? Please don't confuse this fictional location with Themiscyra (Pontus)] where a short summary of this is already present (and could be expanded). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:34, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:34, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Note:: I mentioned this in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Comics. I am not the only one who thought it shouldn’t be deleted. I know I wouldn’t be the only one to deprod it.Jhenderson 777 05:38, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Merge to List of locations of the DC Universe. The current entry there could use some additional detail. Argento Surfer (talk) 14:15, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

:Not a good idea. That’s like merging Metropolis (comics), Gotham City or Smallville (comics) on there. It should be pretty common sensical that this is indeed notable. Jhenderson 777 14:19, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

My obvious vote is Keep: Here are sources that I digged up. [https://www.bustle.com/p/where-is-themyscira-the-wonder-woman-island-is-a-mystical-dream-60574], [https://screenrant.com/wonder-woman-themyscira-island-home-trivia-facts-history/], [https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/wonder-woman-themyscira], [https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/herocomplex/la-ca-mn-wonder-woman-themyscira-sneaks-20170421-story.html], [https://comicbook.com/dc/2017/06/06/wonder-woman-themyscira/], [https://www.cinemablend.com/television/1725470/legends-of-tomorrow-just-introduced-a-legendary-location-from-dc-comics-into-the-arrow-verse], [https://www.theverge.com/2017/3/11/14893388/wonder-woman-trailer-gal-gadot-warner-bros-dc-comics-watch]. Jhenderson 777 18:14, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

:[https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/behind-screen/how-wonder-womans-island-home-was-created-1012264], [https://variety.com/2016/film/news/wonder-woman-spinoff-first-look-1201738284/], [https://screenrant.com/wonder-woman-stills-themyscira-london-germany/] etc. Also if the island is a topic on Wonder Woman's supposed bisexuality which is reported constantly! Does that count too? Jhenderson 777 18:22, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

::For example: [https://time.com/4513668/wonder-woman-queer-steve-rucka/ “When you start to think about giving the concept of Themyscira its due, the answer is, ‘How can they not all be in same-sex relationships?’ Right? It makes no logical sense otherwise. It’s supposed to be paradise. You’re supposed to be able to live happily. You’re supposed to be able … to have a fulfilling, romantic and sexual relationship. And the only options are women…] Jhenderson 777 18:27, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

  • Keep - Let this page stay. It is a major location in Wonder Woman. Plus, {{ping|Jhenderson777}} is right about his location information. --Rtkat3 (talk) 18:51, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Keep. Nominator clearly did not do due diligence with BEFORE, I found the ScreenRant, Bustle, and especially the LA Times article provided by Jhenderson777 to satisfy GNG. Etzedek24 (I'll talk at ya) (Check my track record) 19:34, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

  • Keep In this case I actually side with the keepists, this page is notable. I'm kind of shocked it would be nominated for deletion straight-up.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 21:48, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Withdraw. I did before, but clearly, not enough (I guess I stopped after finding several crappier sources which don't go beyond PLOT). Secondary look plus a sources presented here does suggest there is sufficient material to expand this beyond a pure PLOT/appearances ([https://docs.lib.purdue.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1195&context=clcweb], [https://books.google.co.kr/books?id=7f4vDgAAQBAJ&pg=PT203&dq=%22Themyscira%22+%22Wonder+Woman%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiu--SEj-vlAhWSQN4KHRCYCF4Q6AEIKDAA#v=onepage&q=%22Themyscira%22&f=false]). This one can stay, let's hope someone expands it beyond the current plot/media appearances. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:02, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep as nominator appears to be insdiscriminately targetting fiction related subjects regardless of merits. --131.123.51.67 (talk) 15:36, 15 November 2019 (UTC) 131.123.51.67 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
  • Keep as major fictional local in the DC Universe. Article is not in happy shape, but that's not reason for AfD. Also nominator looks to have withdrawn. Ford MF (talk) 01:13, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

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