Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thirstin Howl III

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Virtually unsourced promotional advertisement for a rapper, so appallingly badly written that I can't make heads or tails of whether he actually passes WP:NMUSIC or not (I actually considered speedying it as a G11, it's that bad.) The only source being cited here is his bio on his own webpage, a primary source that does not demonstrate notability. As always, I'm willing to withdraw this if the article can be rewritten in a properly encyclopedic format that cites a proper array of reliable sources, but he's not entitled to keep this. Delete. Note also that if it does get deleted, the two albums of his which also have articles, Skilligan's Island and La Cura, will also need to be deleted under CSD A9. Bearcat (talk) 22:49, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:18, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:18, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

• Comment: I did find one possible source [http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/interviews/id.158/title.thirstin-howl-iii-the-sources-unsigned-hype], and apparently Eminem guested on one of this tracks [http://www.complex.com/music/2013/10/underrated-eminem-songs/thirstin-howl-iii-eminem-watch-deez]. I do not know how reliable Hip Hop DX and Complex are (and at any rate, the Complex article really only talks about Eminem's contribution). If kept, the article needs a major rewrite, pretty much from scratch. — Gwalla | Talk 23:46, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
• Strong keep: An eminent article. It could use a scrubbing and more references, though. No More 18 (talk) 11:12, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

::Eminent how, exactly? Bearcat (talk) 20:54, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

• weak keep certainly notable—The Source's Unsigned Hype, once the most famous column in rap [http://wordtothemother.tumblr.com/post/67407181759/the-source-magazine-issue-95-august-1997], plus [http://www.villagevoice.com/2003-06-10/music/who-s-that-man-momma/] [http://www.miaminewtimes.com/2008-03-06/music/thirstin-howl-iii-speaks/] [http://www.allmusic.com/artist/thirstin-howl-iii-mn0000592239/biography] [http://books.google.ie/books?id=V60rnKjuhSgC&pg=PT20#v=onepage&q&f=false] [http://www.rapreviews.com/archive/2002_07_island.html] [http://www.xxlmag.com/lifestyle/2010/11/polo-and-hip-hop-an-oral-history-pt-1/] & 200 words in the Encyclopedia of Popular Music. But currently a blp with no sources. 78.18.102.158 (talk) 00:46, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

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:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 00:12, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

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• Delete - Totally agree with nom - I can't make any sense of it neither, IMHO it needs WP:BLOWNUP & rewriten, Anyway non notable rapper fails GNG. →Davey2010→→Talk to me!→ 18:14, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
• Keep. The sources provided by User:78.18.102.158 look good (well, except for the one from XXL, which just lists rappers who wear Ralph Lauren gear. I think he clears the notability hurdle, and AfD decisions should be made based on the notability of the subject, not the state of the article (WP:BLOWUP is just an essay, not policy). Again, though, a major rewrite is in order. Even if it's just a stub. — Gwalla | Talk 16:22, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
• Weak keep All the bad writing comes from a text dump by one user, ending with "SKILLIONAIRE press kit". That edit should be reverted as possible copyvio and the article be completely rewritten. (though maybe some of the guest performances listed in there can be added to a list) Don Cuan (talk) 10:37, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

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