Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thomas Toivonen

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The result was soft delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?action=edit&preload=Wikipedia%3AXFDcloser%2FSoft_deletion_refund_preload&preloadparams%5b%5d={{urlencode:Thomas Toivonen}}&preloadparams%5b%5d={{urlencode:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thomas Toivonen}}&editintro=Wikipedia%3AXFDcloser%2FSoft_deletion_refund_intro&preloadtitle={{urlencode:Thomas Toivonen}}§ion=new&title=Wikipedia%3ARequests_for_undeletion&create=Request request the article's undeletion]. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:53, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

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The man may be a virtuoso, but there's no sourcing that I can find that establishes that at an encyclopedic level. His side project Kaburu is likewise listed at AfD. Drmies (talk) 01:31, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

Comment. The references in the corresponding Polish article at :pl:Thomas_Toivonen may be helpful. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 02:16, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians, Finland, and Sweden. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 02:18, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
Comment I can't read Polish, but based on the urls the pl.wiki sources appear all suspect. It's blogs, an amazon page, etc. I did find a Polish newspaper bio about him [https://www.rp.pl/kultura/art15788761-nowe-kolektywy-w-dziczy], and there's maybe a couple of hits from Swedish newspapers, but the latter are all paywalled and I can't access them [https://helagotland.se/start/flykten-fran-civilisationen-4419685.aspx], [https://www.svd.se/a/22def49b-b355-34d5-b2f3-aa89245fe36d/backa-inte-varlden-men-byt-spar]. Someone of the same name appears to have also written opinion pieces for Fria Tidningen, but those obviously don't count even if it is the same person. I'll refrain from !voting for now in the hopes that someone else has access to the paywalled newspaper links. -Ljleppan (talk) 07:46, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
:It's been a couple of days, so absent confirmation that the paywalled Swedish language sources I linked above are sufficient for GNG, I'll mark myself down as a delete. That said, I'll happily reconsider if someone can provide a description of them. Ljleppan (talk) 11:57, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
{{On AFD|Hwem}} and {{On AFD|Kaburu}} were created by an account claiming (via the copyright on the image) to be {{On AFD|Thomas Toivonen}}, which has also edited this article. Interestingly, some 13 years later another account claiming to be Toivonen came along, requested that the biography be deleted, and proceeded in concert with an IP address editor to remove quite a lot of content. That was 3 years ago. The early versions from 2007 were very clearly someone writing about xyrself in the third person. The current version is fairly well aligned with the Polish Wikipedia article, whose sourcing is somewhat shaky, I agree. Some similarly poor sources were removed from this article in 2020. Uncle G (talk) 10:52, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:20, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:42, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

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