Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thor - The Edda Chronicles

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no assertions of notability; future date is a violation of WP:CRYSTAL - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 18:05, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

:Delete per WP:NFF - Also, just a comment: no assertion of notability is not a reason for deletion for films, and future date in itself is not a violation of WP:CRYSTAL - the key is notability and certainty of taking place. This movie likely fails WP:N because it has not been covered substantially (at least amongst the English online sources I found), and it fails WP:NFF: Films that have not been confirmed by reliable sources to have commenced principal photography should not have their own articles.-Samuel Tan 18:50, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

:*Reply. Lacking notability is most certainly is a reason for deletion (An assertion keeps it from speedy, but not for films.). Your link for "reason for deletion" says, in part, this: "Articles whose subject fails to meet the relevant notability guideline (WP:N, WP:BIO, WP:MUSIC, WP:CORP and so forth)". I do agree that simply a future date is not a criterion for violating WP:CRYSTAL. Thanks for that link to WP:NFF; it will be useful in the future. - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 19:38, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

:::Hi there! Actually what I wrote was "lack of assertion of notability", which is a reason for deletion only for biographies of living persons and articles for existing organizations, if I understand the rule correctly. :) -Samuel Tan 03:15, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

::Keep Cobaltbluetony I understand your concerns about this article and i have made some changes to it. As i understand it you had three main concerns which i think i have corrected now.

• The first one was about the article only referencing one source. I made some changes and now it references three sources (The Internet Movie Database and Morgunblaðið). The Morgunblaðið article is in Icelandic but if you look at the screenshots you can see that the article is about the film.

• The second one was about the future date violating WP:CRYSTAL. The future date is confirmed in the Morgunblaðið article but again it is in Icelandic so i guess you will just have to asume good faith.

• The third was about about notability which Samuel Tan also adressed. It haven't seen any articles about it in English but it has gotten pretty good coverage in the Icelandic media.

Here are more links:

[http://www.visir.is/article/20080607/LIFID01/959503909/0/LIFID Ólafur Darri líklegur í hlutverk Þórs]

[http://www.vb.is/frett/1/43835/400-milljona-krona-althjodlegur-samningur-um-teiknimyndina-thor 400 milljóna króna alþjóðlegur samningur um teiknimyndina Þór]

Wikipedia is a global project and i don't think it should be limited to notability in the English-speaking world--Jóhann Heiðar Árnason (talk) 19:36, 8 August 2008 (UTC).

:*Reply. Since this is the English-language version of Wiikipedia, we still will need translations of the sources to confirm notability. - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 19:39, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

::*Reply. I could translate one or all of the articles for you. Should i post the translations here?--Jóhann Heiðar Árnason (talk) 19:42, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

:::* Reply: I suggest you post very short summaries of two or three articles here. Thanks. :) -Samuel Tan 03:16, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

::::* Reply: :-) Ok, that shouldn‘t be a problem.

http://www.mbl.is/mm/vidskipti/frettir/2008/06/06/caoz_gerir_400_milljon_krona_samning/

http://www.vb.is/frett/1/43835/400-milljona-krona-althjodlegur-samningur-um-teiknimyndina-thor

These articles are written about the same subject. A 400 million ISK deal that CAOZ made with German company Ulysses Films and Irish company Magma Productions [http://www.magmaworld.com/] at the Cannes film festival to co-produce Thor – The Edda Chronicles.

There is also a summary of the storyline, the production process and the companies involved. The movie has been in pre-production for 4 years, costs are estimated somewhere around 1.1 billion ISK and it is expected to hit theaters at the end of 2010. Movies made by Caoz include Anna and the moods and The Caterpillar while Ulysses and Magma have just finished co-producing Niko and the way to the stars [http://www.nikomovie.com/en.html] along with people from Finland and Denmark.

http://www.visir.is/article/20080607/LIFID01/959503909

This article is about the possibility that Icelandic actor Ólafur Darri Ólafsson [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0959963/] could possibly voice the role of Thor in both the Icelandic language version of the movie and the English language version.

Other subjects that are discussed are potential voice actors for the English speaking version and a possible Hollywood movie about Thor being released at a similar time.

--Jóhann Heiðar Árnason (talk) 23:33, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

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:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, --jonny-mt 07:39, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. —PC78 (talk) 11:20, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
• Comment Accepting that its existance as a project has been confirmed, and that the animation creation has begun, it'd be helpful for you to give a few more sources (with translation summary) as you have indicated that it is getting "pretty good coverage in Icelandic media". This would further address film notabilty guidelines. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 17:48, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

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