Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tim Day

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This player seems to fall short of WP:Athlete because this person does not seem to have played any games in professional football. He also has not had a notable college career. Andy4226uk (talk) 15:11, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

• Delete Plenty of drafted players do not end up playing a fully professional game. Being on the practice squad doesn't constitute passing WP:ATHLETE. 2 says you, says two 15:19, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:47, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:47, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
• Delete, never played in an NFL regular game. NawlinWiki (talk) 19:55, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
• Keep article needs a re-write, but instead of focusing on his quite non-notable professional career, the article should focus on his highly notable college career that would pass WP:GNG.--Paul McDonald (talk) 03:35, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
• Abstain it appears that there's a lot more information and a possible two different players here. I don't have time to research this particular one (I'm working on another!) so from here on count me out on this discussion because as Sgt. Schultz says, "I know nothing, I see nothing, and I say nothing!"--Paul McDonald (talk) 17:35, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

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:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:59, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

• Relisting comment. Mediocre college players don't get drafted into the NFL. Per PMD I think more discussion is needed on his college career. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 02:02, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
• Delete "Mediocre college players don't get drafted into the NFL." Tim Day didn't get drafted into the NFL either. As the article points out, he was an undrafted free agent. But even if he had been drafted, we don't have a policy that assumes notability for the 200+ players who get drafted every year. His college career isn't notable. He broke his team's record for "completion percentage in a single game", but there are hundreds of students who have broken a school record of some sort at the University of Massachusetts, and hundreds of schools where people hold a school record of some sort. Even in a major college football program, holding one of the school's records is not notable enough for a Wikipedia article. It's a stretch to call his college career notable, let alone "highly notable". He's just another nice guy among millions of athletes. Mandsford 03:27, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
• Comment this article conflates two different individuals. [http://www.umassathletics.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/day_tim00.html Timothy Sean Day] played quarterback at UMass, [http://www.goducks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=500&ATCLID=22337 Timothy Gene Day] played tight end at Oregon. The tight end was on the Bengals and Eagles rosters, but [http://www.nfl.com/players/timday/profile?id=DAY417111 never played in a regular season game]. Strikehold (talk) 00:42, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
• Reply to Strikehold. You are correct. I've addressed that by omitting the information about the Oregon player. Based on news coverage, the UMass quarterback appears to be somewhat notable. I figured better to focus on him. If anyone disagrees, perhaps they could find verifiable sources and create an article on the "other" Tim Day who played for Oregon. Cbl62 (talk) 05:36, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

:: So this Tim Day is the one who didn't sign a contract with the NFL? I still can't figure out what he did that would fall under what WP:BIO describes as "significant, interesting, or unusual enough to deserve attention or to be recorded." If he'd done something like taking his team to the I-AA playoffs, I could somewhat understand the assertions of a remarkable college career, but I don't see it. The best that I can say is that U-Mass had a winning record in his three seasons there (8-4, 6-5, 7-4) but that was a team effort that no one man could be credited for. Mandsford 17:22, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

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