Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Todd Blackburn

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I'm nominating this article for deletion as I don't believe Blackburn meets the criteria for inclusion in Wikipedia (particularly per WP:ONEVENT). His contribution to the Battle of Mogadishu was minor and I suspect this article only exists because Blackburn was played by Orlando Bloom in Black Hawk Down. I also note that various other characters from the movie have recently also been deleted. Ranger Steve (talk) 17:35, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

:Delete While there [http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/orlandosentinel/access/100810015.html?dids=100810015:100810015&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&type=current&date=Jan+19,+2002&author=Roger+Roy,+Sentinel+Staff+Writer&pub=Orlando+Sentinel&desc=MOVIE+TELLS+A+STORY+HE+CAN'T+REMEMBER+;+THE+SOLDIER+WAS+CRITICALLY+HURT+EARLY+IN+THE+1993+SOMALIA+BATTLE;+THE+REST+OF+THE+DAY+IS+A+BLANK.&pqatl=google do appear to be independent, reliable sources], I do agree this falls under WP:BLP1E. I have spent some time searching for sources of significant coverage of this individual and haven't really been able to find anything of note. I don't think this qualifies as sufficient notability for inclusion. --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 18:44, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

:Delete per nom and Shirik. This incident gets a one line mention in Battle of Mogadishu (1993), and that seems to be the extent of its notability. Certainly not enough for a WP:BIO article. Some content may be worth merging into the aforementioned article, but for such a minor incident in the context of the battle I believe that would be assigning it WP:UNDUE weight. EyeSerene^talk 20:25, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. —AustralianRupert (talk) 21:47, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
• Delete: per nomination and the precedent set recently with Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Larry Perino, Todd Blackburn probably doesn't pass WP:ONEVENT. — AustralianRupert (talk) 21:47, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
• Delete Another bio article that by our standards is remarkable for being completely unremarkable. I do hate saying that, but that's the way it is. TomStar81 (Talk) 02:42, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:ONEEVENT Nick-D (talk) 09:39, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Clear BLP1E. ukexpat (talk) 13:40, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
• Keep per BLP1E. Blackburn has persistent coverage in reliable sources. Googleing for "Todd Blackburn" black hawk with results restricted to those updated in the past year gives 359 results. Greenshed (talk) 00:12, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
• Keep - I found [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Todd+Blackburn%22+%2B+%22black+hawk%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= 2,800 recent Ghits], and [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=black-hawk&as_epq=Todd+Blackburn+&as_oq=&as_eq=wiki+pedia+blog+imdb&num=10&lr=lang_en&as_filetype=&ft=i&as_sitesearch=&as_qdr=all&as_rights=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=images even excluding the usual cruft I found 802 Ghits]. This guy has had continuing coverage, perhaps because of Orlando Bloom, but that makes him notable. Bearian (talk) 13:27, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

::But if you remove Black Hawk from your searches... nothing, just his name on a few RPG sites. He's only notable because of the film Black Hawk Down, a bit part at best. Lots of Google hits don't make him any more notable unless they're covering lots of different aspects of his life. All the google count does is tally up more hits for Black Hawk and Orlando Bloom. It's very very onevent, even if he is notable for it. Ranger Steve (talk) 07:42, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

How did his fall affect the battle? Rin tin tin 1996 (talk) 20:35, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

:Short answer, it didn't really. He was the first casualty and was evacuated quickly (in convoy with prisoners), but aside from separating a man or two from a chalk, no real input or influence. Ranger Steve (talk) 21:59, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

::I thought it caused a giant delay. My mistake. Delete Rin tin tin 1996 (talk) 20:49, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

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