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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tomek Czerwinski

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 03:03, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

=[[Tomek Czerwinski]]=

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A community college decathlete. Has not competed at the international level. Fails WP:NTRACK. References given are either non-independent or briefly mention Czerwinski. Prod was contested on grounds that he will compete for Poland at the Summer Olympics. I cannot find any evidence he is on the Polish team or eligible for the team. If he competes in the Olympics, the article can be re-created. Bgwhite (talk) 22:13, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Bgwhite (talk) 22:14, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

  • Delete - I'm not well-versed in the world of sports, but a Google search shows no reliable sources on this man, just things like Facebook, local newspapers, etc. --Madison-chan (talk) 23:29, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
  • Do Not Delete - I am very educated on the sport of track and field and the decathlon event. I have coached track and field for 34 years. I do not know this individual personally, but in the track world he is a well known rising star. His parents immigrated here from Poland so he has automatic dual citizenship, and his marks show (to anyone knowledgeable of the decathlon) that he will be at the international level, but in order not to jeopardize his college eligibility they must technically keep it out for now. He is extremely popular and this article must stay. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Macnit (talk • contribs) 03:09, 15 November 2011 (UTC) — Macnit (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
  • Comment - For somebody who doesn't know the subject personally, it is very odd that you claim to have taken the picture illustrating the article, :File:Czerwinski-T.jpg, which is the same image from his [http://fp.academic.venturacollege.edu/athletics/track/Track_2011/Track_Profiles/Czerwinski_Tomek.html Ventura Track and Field profile]. Rather odd. -- Whpq (talk) 20:26, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
  • Do Not Delete - It would be rude to delete this individual's article based on your lack of knowledge of the sport. The sources don't specifically state him competing at the international level, but as a very experienced coach and official, I can say that he is very big underground in the decathlon world. Leave the post and it will be edited as his career unfolds. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrtracker (talk • contribs) 04:36, 15 November 2011 (UTC) — Mrtracker (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

::Striking the !vote above. Mrtracker has been confirmed by a checkuser as a sockpuppet of Macnit per Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Macnit. Deor (talk) 05:05, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

  • Delete. Other than a few mentions in places that don't really count as reliable sources, this guy doesn't qualify for an article at this point in time. We can't justify keeping an article because Czerwinski might turn out to be big. WP:CRYSTAL There's a lot of very promising athletes that never make it big for whatever reason. Also, be aware that this is not decided on a vote. It doesn't matter if this gets a dozen accounts all saying "don't delete". If they can't provide sources to prove notability in the here and now (and saying he might one day be notable doesn't count), then they won't outweigh the people saying "delete" that can justify their opinion. Tokyogirl79 (talk) 05:23, 15 November 2011 (UTC)tokyogirl79
  • Delete - No coverage in reliable sources, and I see no evidence of him meeting WP:NTRACK. As for qualifying for the Olympics, I can't even find him listed at the [http://iaaf.org/athletes/biographies/index.html IAAF] site. I'd be surprised that he would qualify to the Olympics without ever competing at an IAAF event. -- Whpq (talk) 20:26, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
  • Delete per WP:NTRACK and WP:CRYSTAL. May yet be notable, but not now.--~TPW 21:40, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.