Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Too Phat

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The result was keep. Nakon 01:41, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

=[[Too Phat]]=

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fails WP:MUSICBIO. no notable albums or singles. awards are not major LibStar (talk) 23:28, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Malaysia-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:39, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:39, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Keep – Passed GNG. Sources are easily available on the web. Just need to [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Countering_systemic_bias search harder]. Arteyu ? _{Blame it on me !} 18:16, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

:: please provide actual evidence of sources as per WP:MUSTBESOURCES. LibStar (talk) 02:01, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Coffee // have a cup // beans // 00:17, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

New Straits Times has dozens of articles about this group: [http://www.highbeam.com/Search?searchTerm=Too+Phat], [http://www.bing.com/search?q=Too+Phat+site%3Awww.nst.com.my&form=OPRTSD&pc=OPER]. See also [http://www.allmusic.com/artist/too-phat-mn0000443587 AllMusic]. The initializer (talk) 22:59, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

:: your first search includes a lot of non relevant hits as it includes any coverage with the word phat. LibStar (talk) 01:54, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

:::Sorry, I couldn't get the quotes to work on the Wikipedia editor. But there are 100 news articles that mention the group [http://www.highbeam.com/Search?searchTerm=Too+Phat+Flizzow here]. It's not a garage band. The initializer (talk) 06:00, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

coverage is more about band member Joe Flizzow and often quoted as a former member of the group. LibStar (talk) 09:35, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

::It should be keep. Too Phat is an essence to Malaysian hip hop scene. I grow up listening to their music. Tafeax (talk) 15:12, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

::: WP:IKNOWIT is not a reason for keeping. LibStar (talk) 09:33, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NORTH AMERICA¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:08, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Keep, as above, per GNG, covered in Billboard [https://books.google.it/books?id=mQ8EAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA78&dq=Too+Phat&hl=en&sa=X&ei=ENELVevdHofPaN22gOAE&ved=0CCsQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=Too%20Phat&f=false], [https://books.google.it/books?id=hRIEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA38-IA5&dq=Too+Phat&hl=en&sa=X&ei=ENELVevdHofPaN22gOAE&ved=0CCEQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Too%20Phat&f=false] and in several books (including several pages on Global Englishes and Transcultural Flows by Alastair Pennycook, which were later cited multiple times in books and publications), among other things. Historically notable, "And then along came a group called Too Phat, and they really kind of changed the scope of hip-hop in Malaysia. They were the first to combine hip-hop with both traditional Malay sounds and the Malay language." [http://www.dw.de/hip-hop-as-uniting-force-in-multi-ethnic-malaysia/a-17443567]. More than what I expected, considering I just checked for English-language sources. Also, I don't see how coverage about band member Joe Flizzow should be excluded from the count, as long as the article covers his solo career as well. Cavarrone 08:09, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Keep – Passes WP:BAND. Additional (paywalled) sources include: [http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-82772843.html], [http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-78680796.html], [http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-82630993.html], [http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-82658117.html], [http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-82770837.html], [http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-93870285.html], [http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-90993578.html], [http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-82749626.html], [http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-82677432.html], [http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-76803634.html], [http://www.highbeam.com/Search?searchTerm=Too+Phat%2C+malaysia many more]. NORTH AMERICA¹⁰⁰⁰ 23:34, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

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