Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tori Praver
=[[Tori Praver]]=
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Non notable model. Some covers, some works, just that. Damiens.rf 12:02, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. -- -- Cirt (talk) 15:19, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
:Keep: From multiple appearances in the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue to the cover of Vogue to being a spokesmodel for designers like Ralph Lauren and Guess?, I'd say Praver's career is notable enough to warrant this article. Appearing in the SISI in particular should satisfy criteria #1 of WP:ENT. Mbinebri talk ← 01:50, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
::Just a model doing model work. There's no non-trivial coverage about her. SISI does not entails notability, as shown by the very lack of third part coverage about most SISI models. --Damiens.rf 13:50, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
:::If "Just x doing x" were a valid argument, every bio on Wikipedia could be deleted with it. The question is whether "doing x" is notable, and the [http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=%22Tori+Praver%22+source%3A%22-newswire%22+source%3A%22-wire%22+source%3A%22-presswire%22+source%3A%22-PR%22+source%3A%22-release%22+source%3A%22-wikipedia%22&btnG=Search+Archives&scoring=a News link] for this AfD shows coverage in the Honolulu Advertiser, Los Angeles Times, San Jose Mercury News, and SI.com. I can also point to a [http://www.malibumag.com/site/article/tori_praver/ Malibu Magazine article]. Mbinebri talk ← 17:41, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:17, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
- Keep per Mbinebri. - The Bushranger Return fireFlank speed 00:28, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
- Mbinebri is being disingenuous when saying that this argument would delete "every bio on Wikipedia". You really need to be outstanding in your work (actually, life) to deserve a bio on wikipedia. All the "news articles" are just trivial "model profiles" and the trivial model-interviews. --Damiens.rf 11:23, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- Wiki articles are not awards given for being outstanding at life. I'm getting the impression you're among the editors who believe models as a whole are not notable, dismissing all modeling work as only a model modeling and all coverage as trivial, regardless of whether it is or not. Mbinebri talk ← 21:49, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- I'm sick of your generalizations. I believe this model is non-notable, and not all of them. And my deletion rationale "just a model doing model work" is an argument for the deletion of this article, and not of "every bio on Wikipedia". Start using some real arguments instead of misreading mine. --Damiens.rf 13:50, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions. -- Jclemens-public (talk) 07:47, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:05, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
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