Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Trevor Foster (drummer)

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He may have worked in two bands, but without sources he is not notable. Existed, played the drum, we enjoyed the music, no doubt about that... However, with the present lack of sources he cannot have a bio article as a musician in WP. Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 09:41, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

• Comment. An absence of sources in the article has no bearing on notability. What efforts did you make to locate sources? --Michig (talk) 10:02, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

:Internet search. (I recognize I did not go to the public library.) You can do the same internet search using the above-provided tools. Regards. --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 10:09, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

::I found these, which confirm many of the details in the article: [http://www.britishmusicarchive.com/F/404-flying-hat-band], [http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=zSsKAQAAMAAJ&q=%22trevor+foster%22+%22albion+band%22&dq=%22trevor+foster%22+%22albion+band%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=mBDBU7bVD8z-PMmQgaAC&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAQ], [http://www.allmusic.com/artist/the-albion-band-mn0000512971/biography], [http://www.allmusic.com/artist/trevor-foster-mn0001188669/credits], [http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=qRTEsW44NDQC&pg=PT84&lpg=PT84&dq=%22trevor+foster%22+drum&source=bl&ots=fsKNXSt5gi&sig=A9C2lB4Wogkdmn416c9O8gQ_juM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=LhDBU6veNcPfOrj-gZgO&ved=0CEsQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=%22trevor%20foster%22%20drum&f=false]. --Michig (talk) 10:44, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

:::Well, thanks. If you care for the drummer you should add those sources to the article and make it better. So other people who join this discussion will see the new aspect of the article and possibly opine in favour of keeping it. Regards. --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 10:53, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:07, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:07, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

:::Comment. The nom doesn't give the impression he undertook WP:BEFORE, however I don't think the refs you found are strong enough. Szzuk (talk) 21:55, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

• Delete Nothing here shows notability. It's all very well editors saying references are out there. If they are, add them!--Egghead06 (talk) 19:01, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

:*Membership of two notable bands in an established criterion of WP:NMUSIC and I have already provided sources that verify the facts stated in the article. AfD is not for cleanup. If he's notable the article should be kept. Don't expect other editors to do all the work. --Michig (talk) 19:29, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

:*WP:BURDEN applies. It is not the job of readers to supply refs. Originators and editors must do this. --Egghead06 (talk) 21:18, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

::*If you're not an editor, why are you here? --Michig (talk) 21:26, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

::*Have I edited this article? No. Have you?.........No. Do the references given establish notability? No. What can a reader verify by reading? Next to nothing. Like the nominator says, if you've got the refs, add them!--Egghead06 (talk) 06:18, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

• Keep I have added a few sources. What is surprising is that there has been this much discussion and nobody has found sources. Or is it that nobody else tried? WP:BEFORE means you should undertake this before you start the process to delete. Trackinfo (talk) 06:02, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

::I'll add, the "Find Sources" section is utterly useless. The inserted name is the name of the article, which conforms to wikipedia naming conventions, which has nothing to do with the reality of his name, or nickname. Go the extra step and use either of those . . . then read. Trackinfo (talk) 06:09, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

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:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, czar ♔ 17:22, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

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• Keep per the sources found by Michig Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 17:58, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

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