Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tunbridge Wells Grammar School for Boys

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Grammar schools are generally not considered notable without significant coverage in 3rd party reliable references. This article has only primary sourcesneeds additional good sources. Rtphokie (talk) 22:05, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

• Weak keep. Needs better references, and the infobox is of the wrong type for a UK school, but I thought any UK secondary school with an Ofsted number was automatically eligible for an article. It will appear in all the league tables and the Ofsted reports will be on-line[http://www.ofsted.gov.uk/oxedu_providers/full/(urn)/118790], which counts as coverage. That said, I can't find a guideline on this. Can anybody point us in the right direction? --DanielRigal (talk) 22:18, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
• Comment Don't know about a guideline, but AfD precedent has long been that all post-primary (US: post-elementary) schools are notable. This is a secondary education establishment (US: high school). ➲ redvers ^{see my arsenal} 23:34, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

:*Yes. That is probably what I was thinking of. --DanielRigal (talk) 23:41, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

• Keep Grammar schools in the UK = US high schools, and as secondary schools, are essentially always found to be notable if sufficiently investigated. Therefore, we have the convention to simply keep them, as 99% would be kept in any case.DGG (talk) 01:10, 2 March 2009 (UTC) However, the article needs some rather drastic evidence to remove insignificant & promotional material.DGG (talk) 01:10, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
• Keep - There are very few grammar schools remaining in the UK and those that do are highly distinctive with long histories. Plenty of sources including [http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2006/may/02/teachershortage.schools][http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/1999/apr/14/uk.politicalnews]. Many notable alumni including sportsmen and politicians. Needs cleaning and sourcing not deletion. TerriersFan (talk) 02:03, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. —TerriersFan (talk) 02:08, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
• Keep Grammar schools are generally considered notable. Colonel Warden (talk) 07:37, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
• Keep but overhaul (as I notice TerriersFan has already begun to do). Secondary schools in general are all notable, and the last remaining grammar schools particularly so. The majority, unfortunately, remain largely based on original research/primary sources, but as TerriersFan states - they need cleaning and sourcing rather than deletion. DJR (T) 10:40, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
• Keep as discussed above, passes WP:N; continue cleanup. Radiopathy (talk) 22:46, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
• Keep as per everyone. Edward321 (talk) 00:00, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
• Keep - I know it's not a valid argument, but there must be thousands of school articles on wikipedia more deserving of deletion. . . Rcawsey (talk) 17:58, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
• Withdrawn - it's snowing and has been made clear that this is likely a notable article. Some better sources have been added but it could still stand some improvement there.--Rtphokie (talk) 18:14, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

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