Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Unji

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Wikipedia is not a dictionary. Also, article is a combination of non-notable, original research / nonsense linking an energy drink commercial's to a former South Korean president's suicide. Might make a good movie, but not a Wikipedia article. -- Wikipedical (talk) 07:39, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

• Comment I think this article should be protected because tones of people ignored the original article which redirected to undzhi ( http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Unji&oldid=281971856 ). I agree with your comment that this is kind of orginal research and nonsense. If this word is fit to Wikipedia policy, why korean wikipedia didn't have same article? If you can understand korean please look this article (http://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/%EC%9A%B4%EC%A7%80 ) and its talk page, history page. Someone constantly try to put same content to korean wikipedia and it's constantly denied. I think somebody constantly are vandalizing about this word. Also, korean wikipedia user also think that Wikipedia is not a dictionary. so it should be deleted. Tigger10 (talk) 10:15, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

:*I'm already reporting one user for blanking the page and not giving any rationale for their actions.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 10:21, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

::*I think most of them are newcomers. Whatever, what's your opinion of deleting this article? I think we should keep this article as redirection article to undzhi. Tigger10 (talk) 10:36, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

:::*They've kept blanking the article after being given several warnings to stop (at least the most recent person to attempt page blanking), so at some point the whole "don't bite the newbie" thing is no longer valid.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 10:39, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

::::*Ah, then I think we can block him/her. (Because I think that my comment is confusing so I emphasized delete at previeous comment to emphasize.) Tigger10 (talk) 12:26, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

• Delete as a neologism, Create a protected disambiguation page per Squeamish. I did a search and couldn't see where this term is really used that often. There is of course the possibility of foreign language sources, but given that the Korean Wikipedia keeps deleting it as a neologism. The only benefit this page serves is under its original use as a redirect to Undzhi, since it's an alternate spelling for the town. Supposedly it's another name for Roh Moo-hyun, but I've found no RS that backs this up.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 10:39, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
• Delete While this word is quite popular among the Korean web community, having an article for this word makes no sense. This is not Wiktionary, nor is it notable enough. In my opinion what this entry deserves at best is a section under Korean wikipedia's page for the mushroom(http://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/%EA%B5%AC%EB%A6%84%EB%B2%84%EC%84%AF) 1wonjae (talk) 10:42, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
• No encyclopedic content, completely unreferenced. Wikipedia is not Urban Dictionary. Delete. - Mike Rosoft (talk) 11:08, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
• Delete the current content, which is foreign-language Urban Dictionary fodder without anything like an RS. I'd like to suggest a redirect to put in place afterward, but as there are two credible targets, we may need to disambiguate. Unji is evidently an alternative spelling for Undzhi, a town in Tajikistan. It is also a Korean name for the fungus Trametes versicolor. Regardless of what is put in place here after the AFD, the article history suggests that some form of protection is going to be mandatory. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 16:59, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

:*I second a disambiguation page and that it should be protected and watched, so I'm changing my vote slightly. I don't mind adding it to my watch list, but given the amount of nonsense that went on here, I think it'd be a good idea to delete the current page history to prevent reversions and start with a fresh disambiguation page that is protected from IP vandalism.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 19:12, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

::*Absolutely agreed with blowing up this page history, although there's probably no harm in keeping Dr. Blofeld's 5 April 2009 history (the first three revisions to the page), in which he creates a page for the Tajikistan town, then redirects it to the more common synonym, since we'll ideally be keeping a link to that page in the eventual disambiguation. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 20:20, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Language-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:46, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:46, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

• Keep. Unji is famous slang in korea. --정과 (talk) 01:35, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

:*You have to prove that it's notable by showing independent and reliable sources to prove that it's more than just a neologism.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 11:57, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

• Delete and re-create the redirect to Undzhi. No evidence that the term is used in the sense claimed, and if it does no evidence that it has received enough coverage to be notable. Also, generally speaking, we don't have articles which give just a dictionary definition of a word and an account of how it came into existence, even for mainstream words, let alone obscure slang terms. This might be suitable for Urban Dictionary, but it does not belong in Wikipedia. JamesBWatson (talk) 09:49, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
• Delete. If Unji Chun or unji mushroom is notable, the slang can be mentioned – briefly – at the bottom of such an article. —Tamfang (talk) 07:24, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
• Delete. Unji Chun, which is korean drink which was sold until 1997, is not that famous until one of the its ccommercials become internet meme in korea recently. Unji mushroom is so colled 구름버섯(cloud mushroom) or yun zhi (simplified Chinese: 云芝, traditional Chinese: 雲芝) and English wikipedia have its own article. We don't need to keep this article, Wikipedia is not a dictionary.Tigger10 (talk) 07:56, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

:*A disambiguation page wouldn't be a bad idea. I'll make the appropriate changes.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 11:59, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

• Comment. I have changed the current contents of the article to reflect that of a disambiguation page, as is the current consensus. I didn't see any reason as to why I couldn't do it now.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 12:05, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
• This would appear to be a WP:TWODABS situation. We generally don't create disambiguation pages where there are only two possibilities. The term should redirect to whichever meaning is most prevalent, with a hatnnote to indicate the other. bd2412 T 04:48, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

:*No problem with that- I think that the city is the most prevalent, or at least it was the original redirect. Someone mentioned a soda by the same name, but I didn't see an article for that on Wikipedia. It looks to have been produced by Guangdong Pharmaceutical, but I don't see an exact article for them. I see a university entry, but not the company.Tokyogirl79 (talk)

::*I added some hatnotes to the entries, then thought to search for anything with "unji" in it on Wikipedia. I found mention of a temple in Japan as well as an ancient village in India. The temple might be removable because the article itself that it links to is a little undersourced, but the third mention will probably enable this to remain a disambiguation page.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 09:13, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

::*I believe a redirection to Undzhi is the most appropriate (i.e. status quo ante) because unji mushroom is a Korean word and no one in the English-speaking community refers to Trametes versicolor as Unji. If and only if an article on Unji Chun is created and deemed notable, a disambiguation page would make sense. Don't know about other usages though, but they seem pretty minor to me. A redirect to Undzhi with a hatnote will do. 1wonjae (talk) 04:28, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

• Redirect to Undzhi with a hat note. Thank you for presenting a new option, Tokyogirl79. If more articles are found related to the term then Unji (disambiguation) could be created. Ghafurov District and Jamoats of Tajikistan even link to the article. --Odie5533 (talk) 14:27, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

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