Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vathlo Island

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Prodded in 2019 by User:TTN, slightly improved but sadly this is still effectively a plot summary with passing info on what (few) media this niche location appeared in. Fails WP:GNG. The best I can find is the cited [https://gizmodo.com/a-brief-history-of-dc-comics-black-supermen-1846654682] (Gizmodo), but that mentions it in passing (few sentences). It has a bit of analysis but I think that's too little (WP:SIGCOV is not met). Unless someone can find better sources (my BEFORE, as noted, failed), I can only suggest an WP:ATD-R to the List of DC Universe locations. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:25, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements, Science fiction and fantasy, and Comics and animation. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:25, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
• Merge to Krypton. I don't think there is enough here to pass GNG, but there is some good sourced commentary here which would make for a nice subsection about Vathlo Island on the Krypton page. Merging/redirecting to a relevant article is always preferable to me than a massive list article. Rhino131 (talk) 13:20, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
• Keep or merge The cited [https://books.google.de/books?redir_esc=y&hl=de&id=E_86DwAAQBAJ&q=vathlo#v=snippet&q=vathlo&f=false The Ages of Superman] does discuss Vathlo Island for several pages. In addition to the Gizmondo article, [https://www.google.de/books/edition/Superheroes_and_American_Self_Image/eggkDwAAQBAJ?hl=de&gbpv=1&dq=%22Vathlo+Island%22+-wikipedia&pg=RA2-PT25&printsec=frontcover Superheroes and American Self Image] and [https://www.google.de/books/edition/Is_Superman_Circumcised/XIMwEAAAQBAJ?hl=de&gbpv=1&dq=%22Vathlo+Island%22+-wikipedia&pg=PA231&printsec=frontcover Is Superman Circumcised?], p. 231 have brief but non-trivial (and similar) analysis. In total, I think that's enough to establish notability in accordance with WP:WHYN. Daranios (talk) 16:35, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

::Looking again I am fine with a merge to Krypton (comics) (but not to List of DC Universe locations), too, as much of the discussion in the secondary sources is of the relationship of the population of Vathlo Island to the rest of Kryptonian society. Not on the basis of WP:GNG but {{u|Rorshacma}}'s WP:NOPAGE argument. And the content then spills over into Kryptonian and Ethnic stereotypes in comics#Black. Daranios (talk) 16:34, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

• Merge to Krypton (comics) - The The Ages of Superman book does look like a good source, but the other available sources are pretty brief mentions. But, regardless, I do believe this is a WP:NOPAGE situation, where the topic is better covered as part of the broader subject for the added context that presenting the information in that way would provide. Rorshacma (talk) 22:38, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

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