Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vince Peart
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He is only notable for one event, and Alston Moor Regeneration Society is not a notable organisation. John Vandenberg (chat) 10:04, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Alston, Cumbria#2005: Alston in crisis? (possibly with a better-named redirect destination). The incident he was involved in is sufficiently high-profile to warrant a mention in article on the town, but the event, let alone the person connected with the event, is a long way off the notability for a separate article. Chris Neville-Smith (talk) 20:50, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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- Keep BLP1E is irrelevant in this case. "In such cases, it is usually better to merge the information and redirect the person's name to the event article." There is no event article. BLP1E is not more strict than NTEMP because WP wants to delete both event and BLP, it is more strict because someone has to be very notable to have both. Ideally, that should mean that there should have first been an event article written, but in this case, the media chose to write the story as about him, and the content of the article followed. Who is going to write an event article about this? Not me. And by definition, he is more famous than the town; why else would he have done what he did? Anarchangel (talk) 05:39, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
- : The lack of a merge target doesn't invalidate BLP1E; it would reinforce that the event is not notable. However that isn't the case here; this event is notable enough to warrant a section, and it already exists at Alston,_Cumbria#2005:_Alston_in_crisis?. --John Vandenberg (chat) 07:23, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
- : Actually, the media articles I was able to read (and weren't deadlinks) were all primarily about the campaign rather than the founder. Vince Peart's coverage was mainly limited to some quotes in the articles (typically halfway through) and an interview on the BBC about the campaign. I don't see why you should keep an article about a WP:BIO1E just because there's no page about the event yet - that would simply warrant renaming to and rewriting the article about the event. But in this case, the lack of enduring notability puts the event a long way off WP:EVENT, so a mention in Alston, Cumbria seems like the correct location to me. Chris Neville-Smith (talk) 07:45, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
::International coverage. The symptoms of the event are local, but the ramifications are national, and the impact on the press went much further than local stories usually go. Under EVENT, WP:GEOSCOPE: "Coverage of an event nationally or internationally makes notability more likely, but does not automatically assure it"
::Also under EVENT, WP:DIVERSE coverage; covered as a human interest story by many, it was also covered as business news [http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-4606513/Website-started-for-lonely-Cumbrian.html Internet Business News - ECNext].
::Anarchangel (talk) 13:24, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
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