Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Violation (basketball)

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I'm going through pages tagged with notability concerns, and I don't know what the heck this page is. Is it a disambiguation page? Is it an article? If it's an article, can it be sourced? If it can be sourced, does it pass WP:GNG?

Just to be clear, I'm on the side of "weak delete" since I'm not sure how to source the page, which is why I'm taking this to AfD, but I'm happy if this gets kept on some disambiguation-style technicality. SportingFlyer T·C 09:59, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Basketball-related deletion discussions. SportingFlyer T·C 09:59, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

• Keep A violation is a type of rules infraction in basketball that is distinct from a foul as it does not count towards an individual or team's total number of fouls (for the purposes of disqualification or "fouling out" and a bonus situation. While the [https://official.nba.com/rule-no-10-violations-and-penalties/ NBA Rules] no not explicitly group these types of infractions together as in the article, the [https://wabc.fiba.com/introduction/basic-rules-of-basketball/2-3-violations/ FIBA rules do] (see also [http://www.fiba.basketball/documents/official-basketball-rules-yellow/2020.pdf]). Other sources [https://www.northeastern.edu/campusrec/intramurals/training/odp/Basketball/CallingViolations.php][http://assets.ngin.com/attachments/document/0109/5058/Basketball_Referee_Signals.pdf][https://web.mst.edu/~ima/Rules/basketballrules.html] also explicitly distinguish "fouls" and "violations." While I did consider whether it would be better to simply make a new section on Violation (e.g. Violation#Basketball) I think the coverage of the distinction between "violation" other types of infractions meets GNG and warrants an article. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 12:43, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
• Keep - I think this should be treated like a pseudo-DAB page, like it is now, just listing out the different types of violations. I don't know what a better solution would be, because I don't think there's a suitable place to merge the list. I guess we could even change this to 'List of violations'.‡ El cid, el campeador ^talk 13:23, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

:*That makes sense - I don't think any of the sources presented by Qwaiiplayer are secondary, but the dab page makes more sense. Just need to be careful we don't get into WP:DICDEF territory. SportingFlyer T·C 20:12, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

• Rename List of basketball violations. This is in no way a possible dab page. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:20, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
• Keep or Rename - I created this page and have been maintaining it. The page exists because "violation" is a common basketball term, there are many types, and like a DAB, this page directs the reader to a suitable page to read about specific types of violation. There are no citations because citations are on the destination pages. The proposed rename is compatible with this, provided the DAB Violation continues to point to it. (You would not want to spell out every class of violation in the DAB.) Spike-from-NH (talk) 23:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
• Keep - Per El Cid. Can someone close this? I think we have a consensus. 2603:7000:2143:8500:A066:D0D0:9D48:3659 (talk) 07:15, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

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