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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/WWE Capitol Punishment

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to List of WWE pay-per-view events. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 06:55, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

=[[WWE Capitol Punishment]]=

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Future event, which does not yet meet notability requirements - per WP:GNG, WP:V, WP:CRYSTAL. It was redirected, but the redirect was undone [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=WWE_Capitol_Punishment&diff=prev&oldid=425232683].  Chzz  ►  04:43, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

  • Speedy redirect if it exists. I've heard of the event, but if it hasn't taken place yet, a redirect is better until more details are established for an article. CycloneGU (talk) 05:31, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Speedy Redirect as per above Five Years 08:51, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Oh for God sakes how many times do I have to say this WWE does one PPV at a time that's how every company does it, that's how it's always been done. For God sakes there's two other PPV's before this so get anything right now. You gotta give these articles time to grow don't kill them. Someone from WP:PW is just gonna put it back up even if you delete it.--Voices in my Head WWE 14:12, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

:Oh look what do we have here? A link to Ticketmaster.com about WWE Capitol Punishment on June 19. [http://www.ticketmaster.com/WWE-Capitol-Punishment-tickets/artist/1577753] And what's this? VerizonCenter.com link to events that says WWE Capitol Punishment June 19. [http://www.verizoncenter.com/events/index.php?opts=detail&eid=3574&evtype=special] And look at this, a calendar on Verizon Center's website if you go to June, you'll find WWE Capitol Punishment. [http://www.verizoncenter.com/events/index.php?month=6&year=2011]--Voices in my Head WWE 14:22, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

::You have failed to give an argument for how the event is notable now. Yes, it will exist in the future, hence why a redirect is the recommendation, not outright delete. CycloneGU (talk) 15:42, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

  • Speedy redirect as per the arguments above. These are fictional/scripted events, not actual competitions, and should be governed by the same standards applied to movies, TV shows, etc. There isn't even a cast list yet. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 15:16, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Redirect--Voices in my Head WWE 16:03, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Redirect Geez Who the heck keeps creating these things way to early its WP:PW policy to redirect it to List of WWE pay-per-view events--SteamIron 20:24, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

::A show of hands, anyone interested in checking all of the histories? Anyone? Anyone? Hears crickets. CycloneGU (talk) 20:32, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

  • Redirect events of the future aren't encyclopedic, encyclopia's are current and past, not future. not to mention, assuming the event will be notible, do they know something we don't? hope they can reference to it if they do. Alan - talk 04:00, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Review- Actually, people need to review WP:CRYSTAL. This is the next currently scheduled event. Barring a natural disaster or major disruption, and not as certain as Solar eclipse of July 1, 2011, it is a future event that will take place, and this is the announced title. A venue has been reported in reliable sources, as have broadcasters and their broadcast times. The lead must be carefully worded with synonyms of 'scheduled' as opposed to 'will take place' and speculation (particularly ticket cost) and rumors (especially 'characters', except where officially verified, i.e. independent and 'official' ) must be removed if inserted. For the furthest sourced sports example ready at hand, see 2028 Summer Olympics. Dru of Id (talk) 20:25, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
  • :Show me the links to reliable third-party sources and I will have reason to perhaps change my opinion. CycloneGU (talk) 21:28, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

::Sorry; for venue/date/time, [http://www.stubhub.com/wwe-tickets/wwe-capitol-punishment-6-19-2011-1039875/ this] is an independent, reliable source; I meant to include it above. It's not AP or Reuters, but they are independent, third party, and accurate. Reference citation linking is not required. Dru of Id (talk) 22:20, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

::: I'm still not seeing the notibility of the event which hasn't even happened yet (hence, can't be notible until it does happen and there is sufficient coverage).. this is an encyclopedia, not a fan site.. go ask the publishers of brittanica if they'll include future events in their encyclopedia, let me know what they respond. Alan - talk 22:32, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

::::They would tell me they're a paper publication with limited page space, unlike WP:PAPER; I'll trout myself becaue otherstuffexists, but MLB 2013 World Series; NBA 2012 NBA All-Star Game; NFL 2014 Super Bowl XLVIII; NHL 2011–12 NHL season; Soccer UEFA Euro 2020 bids... and (2011 Tōhoku earthquake) Gymnastics, delayed? announcement in May 2011 World Artistic Gymnastics Championships. I don't care about sports; do you want to see elections? Dru of Id (talk) 00:31, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

:::::This AfD is not about 2013 World Series or 2012 NBA All-Star Game - it's about WWE Capitol Punishment. If you believe the other articles have reason to be deleted and not exist yet, then nominate them in a separate discussion. CycloneGU (talk) 00:39, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

  • Redirect (Duplicate vote struck - CycloneGU (talk) 00:14, 27 April 2011 (UTC)) Don't you just love the bureaucratic process of Wikipedia? Give this 3 weeks and 6 days and there will be more on this but for now I can settle for redirect.--Voices in my Head WWE 23:13, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Redirect, to WWE, non notable future event. The one "reference" supplied is to a ticket sales site. No assertion or evidence of notability. Jezhotwells (talk) 00:39, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

:This wouldn't be redirected to WWE, it be redirected to List of WWE pay-per-view events.--Voices in my Head WWE 01:00, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

::Fair enough. Jezhotwells (talk) 01:05, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

I pretty much think we have a consensus at this point to redirect to List of WWE pay-per-view events.--Voices in my Head WWE 01:14, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wrestling-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 16:47, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

  • Delete or Redirect. NXT Fan (talk) 14:54, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

::Comment: Given this repeated disruptive creating of non-notable future events regarding this topic, I would prefer "delete then redirect". Wikipedia:Vanispamcruftisement.  Chzz  ►  16:42, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.