Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Welf pudding

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No in-depth third party coverage of the topic. One of the books I found was just passing mention. Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 01:06, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 01:06, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 01:06, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

:Keep. Please withdraw this nomimation. This is a well-known pudding in Germany and just a few seconds search on Google for Welfenspeise produces 21,000 google hits and 8 pages on Google books. I'll add a book reference or two. Bermicourt (talk) 05:03, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

::I've added five book references in English and German including full recipes. Bermicourt (talk) 05:25, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

:::{{u|Bermicourt}}, I had a search but some of the hits seem to be copies of Wikipedia. Are you sure the book references aren't passing mentions? --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 06:06, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

::::{{ping|Tyw7}}. Yes some are, but I've avoided those. Here is a quick summary of the sources used:

:::::* _ (2001). "Hallo Niedersachsen" kocht: die besten Rezepte von Zuschauern und Profis - full recipe in a Lower Saxony cookbook under Nachspeisen (puddings) and no reference to Wikipedia.

:::::* _ (2008). Rheinisch-westfälische Zeitschrift für Volkskunde. - mentioned in Westphalian folk culture periodical.

:::::* Hassani, Nadia (2004) Spoonfuls of Germany: Culinary Delights of the German Regions in 170 Recipes - full recipe and no reference to Wikipedia.

:::::* Heuzenroeder, Angela (2002). Barossa Food - full recipe and no reference to Wikipedia.

:::::* Marburg, Silke and Sophia Kuenheim (eds.) (2016) Projektionsflächen von Adel. Discusses Welfspeise in a section about dishes reflecting the colours of noble families. Three further references, one of which is to Wikipedia, but only because, in passing, it mentions that there is also an article on German Wikipedia.

::::I can keep on adding references, but I think sufficient notability is established with full recipes in English and German cookbooks and I haven't bothered adding online ones, but feel free to do so if you think that's useful. Bermicourt (talk) 07:50, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

• Keep -- article does appear to be well sourced after update. matt91486 (talk) 05:55, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
• Keep per matt91486 above.

: --Matthiaspaul (talk) 18:26, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

• Keep Articles on both the German and Spanish language Wikipedias. Andrew D. (talk) 18:57, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

::{{u|Andrew Davidson}}, and? That doesn't prove notability, especially since the Spanish entry only have 1 reference. --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 21:05, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

::: It doesn't prove anything, but it gives a strong clue on notability, in particular since the rules in the German WP are quite similar to those in the English WP. --Matthiaspaul (talk) 06:00, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

• Keep per all above and the improvements made to the article since this AfD was opened. Ejgreen77 (talk) 06:18, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

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