Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wilbur Braithwaite

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Tagged with a notability tag for almost a decade now. Youth sports coaches are generally not inherently notable, so thought I'd start a discussion. The case for keeping is that he was more accomplished than usual for a high school coach, having been elected to a high school coaching hall of fame and being selected to be the torch bearer for his small town for the Olympics, and as a result had several articles written on him, almost all by newspapers in Salt Lake City, but a couple church publications and a USA Today article. The case for deleting is that the vast majority of the coverage on him is routine sports coverage from the local paper, giving the article the feeling as if it's been written by someone close to the subject. It also appears many different Utahans carried the torch due to Salt Lake hosting the Olympics. While you can pass GNG with only local coverage, the only coverage outside of Utah I can find is local coverage from Connecticut and Florida mentioning his attendance at two hall of fame coaching conventions, showing what notability he had was quite local. I'm on the delete side here, as I don't think the extent of the coverage adds up to notability. I think relevant information can be merged into the high school's article, if one exists, but am interested to think what others make of this. SportingFlyer T·C 17:16, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. SportingFlyer T·C 17:16, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

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:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Utah-related deletion discussions. SportingFlyer T·C 17:16, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

• I am going for Keep since he is getting significant coverage in Utah's major publications over some period of time, not just his local town media. There are several articles about him in the states larger media outlets such as [https://www.deseret.com/2010/4/14/20108582/wilbur-braithwaite-s-loss-felt-by-many][https://www.ksl.com/article/377202/former-basketball-coach-getting-national-recognition][https://archive.sltrib.com/story.php?ref=/ci_14872215][https://www.newspapers.com/image/613642769/][https://www.heraldextra.com/lifestyles/announcements/obituaries/wilbur-t-braithwaite/article_0063c34d-c0da-5f1c-9a4c-5d31c0096a3d.html]. Alvaldi (talk) 18:51, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
• I will abstain. The NFHS Award of Merit alone seems notable on a national level. However, page views that average <1 a day seems to indicate not notable. If the vote is for deletion I agree with merging the information elsewhere. I've updated dead links. Jacobkhed (talk) 02:34, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

::Note that per WP:PAGEVIEW Page stats can help determine how popular a page is, but are not an indication of a topic's notability and If a page's stats are low, it is not a reason to consider it for deletion. Alvaldi (talk) 10:55, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

:::The award of merit isn't really an award which receives a lot of coverage, though, in my searches - it's just an organisational award that will occasionally generate "local coach wins award" coverage, along with that USA Today article, even though I can't find that article appearing in any national print archives. SportingFlyer T·C 11:52, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

• Delete per nom.4meter4 (talk) 23:59, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

• Weak Keep The local coverage he has really is significant, as has been mentioned. The article also has a decent bit of depth of notability beyond just him being a high school sports coach, such as being an Olympic torch bearer and his participation in World War II. —FORMALDUDE ^(talk) 04:52, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
• Keep Decent amount of local sourcing which tends to sway toward notability. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 00:48, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

• Keep per all others. Note that the "abstain" !vote should be a keep, because they point out that the subject is notable, which is all that matters. That user goes on to say that they deny the article a keep !vote because there's <1 visit/day, but even a few visits/month is enough. Plus, lack of views/day don't matter, notability criteria is what does, and this user has agreed that the notability criteria have been passed. Dr. Universe (talk) 07:51, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
• :They said an award they received "seems notable". They didn't say the person was notable.—Bagumba (talk) 07:33, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

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