Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Xtreme Mod

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Obscure open-source software project - unable to find any third-party (non eMule) coverage of this project, as noted back in June 2010 on the article's talk page. It might be a candidate for a redirect to eMule but I'm not sure even that is worth doing. The Dissident Aggressor 07:10, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:12, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:12, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Keep: Sources: There are two references published by {{Interlanguage link multi|cnBeta.com|zh}}, a well-known ([http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/cnbeta.com alexa ranked] 1104 worldwide and 145 in China) Chinese-language, non-self-publishing, general IT-related news website. The two references was added by me and, before doing that I posted "I'll add some sources from some popular Chinese sites" on that article's talk page and another editor User:Old Death responded later "That should be sufficient". I'd suggest User:DissidentAggressor post under that thread if he disagrees the sufficiency of the sources, instead of asking for deletion directly and stating "unable to find any third-party (non eMule) coverage of this project, as noted back in June 2010 on the article's talk page" which according to what I said is not true at all.

Influence: Xtreme Mod brought a remarkable anti-leecher function (DLP (Dynamic Leecher Protection)) into the eMule/eDonkey world, thus brought in lots of discussion in Chinese and in worldwide eMule or even all peer-to-peer file sharing community. Leecher and anti-leecher is really an interesting topic and culture in the P2P world, you may also read Leech (computing)#P2P networks and BitTorrent.

Other notability: In China, Xtreme mod's user may be more than official eMule's, although among eDonkey network clients it may be VeryCD's easyMule which gets the most Chinese users. And as stated in the article, it is the most popular emule mod in the world and there may be really few eDonkey network clients, except official eMule, that can be more popular (according to users count) than Xtreme mod.--Tomchen1989 (talk) 21:56, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

::"the eMule/eDonkey world" What the heck? That's press release language. "As stated in the article, it is the most popular emule mod in the world?" That's like saying it's the most popular left-handed non-chrome plated crescent wrench in the world. Not quite one of the criteria in GNG. The Dissident Aggressor 02:34, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

:::No, that's like saying it's among the most popular Firefox or Google Chrome extensions, whose Wikipedia articles do exist. Actually by download count Xtreme Mod is comparable to them. If I remember right, eMule was ranked no.1 and Xtreme Mod was ranked about 10-20th by all time download count on Sourceforge on 2008 or 2009 (I checked [http://sourceforge.net/top/ sourceforge.net/top/], the list contained not only top 10 but more). And at that time Sourceforge was uncontroversially the world's most popular software repository / hosting service. It was a decent rank, had Xtreme mod got such rank and such popularity today, this AfD might not exist. Xtreme Mod may be less used now, but once it is considered notable and popular, according to Wikipedia guidelines, the popularity doesn't need to be ongoing. Just for information: [http://sourceforge.net/projects/emulextreme/files/stats/timeline?dates=2000-01-01+to+2020-12-31 download count of Xtreme mod], [http://sourceforge.net/projects/scarangel/files/stats/timeline?dates=2000-01-01+to+2020-12-31 of ScarAngel] (a mod of Xtreme mod). --Tomchen1989 (talk) 14:58, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

:::And, as you might already know, I'm obviously not a native English speaker. Sorry for using "press release language" in our discussion, but as long as it is not written in the article, I don't think it's very inappropriate. Thank you for your understanding. Consider "eMule/eDonkey world" as "eMule/eDonkey community" if you want. Given that once eMule was the no.1 software on the no.1 software hosting service, I think this community is far larger than a community where discusses "left-handed non-chrome plated crescent wrench". --Tomchen1989 (talk) 15:26, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

:::::@Tomchen1989: Sorry - didn't mean to criticize a non-native speaker's use of language. I've been dealing with a lot of paid editors. - But more to the point you made, Chrome, Firefox and IE are mainstream products used by billions world-wide. eMule is relatively obscure, catering to a small segment of techies. I don't think the comparison works. The Dissident Aggressor 18:02, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

• Delete – Unable to find any real coverage in independent sources, so fails GNG. – Juliancolton | ^Talk 22:33, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
• Merge any significant content with eMule, fails GNG so otherwise Delete.Pincrete (talk) 19:23, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
• Merge to eMule#eMule mods, where it already is mentioned, and actually belongs for the sake of completeness. I do understand that open source products have a harder time with reliable sources, but the community has decided that they need to meet the GNG, and this product does not. Xymmax ^{So let it be written} _{So let it be done} 03:54, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

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