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:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:13, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

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You'd think that this collection of superstars would generate some coverage, but that idea seems to be mistaken. I found nothing but one announcement of a concert. Drmies (talk) 04:20, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

  • Delete. Apart from the Hawaii State proclamation which alone is not enough, I see no other sources in sufficient depth or coverage to assert notability. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:06, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Delete - No WP:RS, and does not meet the WP:GNG. ZappaOMati 13:50, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Delete Fails WP: GNG, as there is a lck of a depth in coverage, plus Youtube is an unreliable source. --v/r Electric Catfish (talk) 18:53, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Delete. I'm unable to find significant coverage in reliable sources for this collective; does not appear to meet WP:GNG, WP:ENT, or WP:MUSICBIO.  Gongshow Talk 00:41, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
  • Delete. Same as others above, can't find evidence of notability in reliable sources -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:53, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. — Frankie (talk) 19:17, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

  • Keep -- New sources added to bring the number of independent sources to 4. I believe it also meets WP:MUSICBIO criteria #6. The ensemble includes at least 2 notable musicians: JR Aquino (The Voice finalist), and Andrew Garcia (American Idol finalist). --Tea with toast (話) 22:55, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

::Are you suggesting that notability for the band is inherited from some of its members having been non winners of TV reality or game shows? Please link to the relevant notability guidelines, and numerous, reliable, independent established sources that discuss these people in depth per WP:BLP. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:06, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

:::WP:MUSICBIO #6 appears to suggests that if there are two notable individual in the ensemble, then the ensemble should be notable. You can judge whether or not the ensemble members are notable yourself by clicking on the members respective Wikipedia articles. Beyond the singers noted above, I would think that Nigahiga and KevJumba are notable persons. They fit criteria #2 (and possibly #3) for WP:ENT --Tea with toast (話) 04:26, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

::::6 actually says "may" not "should" - I'd say the band itself still needs some significant coverage -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 16:20, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

:::::Part of the idea behind that is that there needs to be an article because there is no obvious redirect target. 86.44.49.108 (talk) 01:36, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

::::::The absence of a redirect target is not a valid reason for having an article - if a subject is not sufficiently notable for an article and there is not a valid redirect, then we simply have nothing. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 07:08, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

:::::::There are in fact competing targets, is the point. 86.44.49.108 (talk) 15:36, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

::::::::That does not change anything - the absence of an obvious single target is not a reason to create an article about a topic if it is not considered sufficiently notable for one. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:39, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

:::::::::In your view, yet disamb is part of the reasoning behind WP:MUSICBIO criteria #6, along with a presumption of notability. 86.44.49.108 (talk) 17:16, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

::::::::::An article is not disambiguation, and WP:MUSICBIO criteria #6 says nothing about disambiguation, and there is no presumption of notability in it -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 19:56, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Mr. Stradivarius (have a chat) 07:32, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Chester See on Itunes: [https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/chester-see/id298899305 Chester See on iTunes]

Dominic 'D-Trix' Sandoval on MTV's [http://www.mtv.com/shows/dance_crew/season_6/cast_member.jhtml?personalityId=14777 America's Best Dance Crew]

Victor "Victor King" Kim is a member and Dominic 'D-Trix' Sandoval is a former member of Quest Crew

--Mldnathai (talk) 15:59, 18 October 2012 (UTC)--Mldnathai (talk) 15:59, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

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