Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yuantang (language game) (2nd nomination)

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Subject fails GNG. The prior AfD was withdrawn as clearly no sources were added and I don't care what zh-wiki says. Chris Troutman (talk) 21:21, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Language, Games, and China. Shellwood (talk) 23:09, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
• Keep – here are three scholarly sources:
• [http://www.cqvip.com/qk/71216x/201202/43266766.html 兴宁“鸳塘话”研究——兼论兴宁苑塘罗氏家族的兴衰史] by 陈靖云
• [https://www.airitilibrary.com/Article/Detail/10262415-201912-201912030022-201912030022-93-105 Exploring Xingning's Yuantang subdialect, a secret variety of the Hakka dialect / 從興寧“鴛塘話”探析客家話的秘密語] by Sheng-yu Teng / 鄧盛有
• [http://edu.alljournals.com.cn/view_abstract.aspx?pcid=B5EDD921F3D863E289B22F36E70174A7007B5F5E43D63598017D41BB67247657&cid=21E2968CE64B12C9&jid=E63633DF78D535DAB9000AB07B3424BA&aid=27513FBDC77A9EE3158CE3FCD37405FE&yid=140ECF96957D60B2&iid=38B194292C032A66&sid=BA79719BCA7341D5&eid=F1177A9DF1349B63&referenced_num= 射字游戏及其应用] by 刘本才 and 李春

: Over at :zh:苑塘话 there's another source listed, but I haven't found a link to it:

:* 罗建平. 举世无双的神秘罗氏族语:苑塘话. 客家风情, 2003.

:This should be enough to demonstrate notability. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 03:34, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

• Keep if I'm allowed to vote – I had withdrawn the original nomination after being convinced by the viability of the sources provided, but since then I haven't gotten around to improving the article, and didn't want to add the sources to it if they weren't being used yet. Remsense留 06:20, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
• Keep "I don't care what zh-wiki says" is such a flippant attitude to take when it cites scholarly sources and is an affront to WP:BEFORE _dk (talk) 06:44, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
• keep: The first source given by Mx. Granger is from a journal started by a Chinese national museum which IMO is reliable. Based on the abstract, it should be considered as a secondary source as it provides an analysis/synthesis based on local chronicles and ethnographic materials. I don't have access to the full text, but based on the title and abstract, they should clearly have significant coverage. --94rain ^Talk 06:34, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

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