Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yuri Leveratto

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Fringe writer who doesn't seem to meet WP:PEOPLE. The sources that work are written by him. This may be in response to my putting up some articles related to/source to him at AfD and my comments at WP:FTN, possibly hoping that if he has an article he could be considered a reliable source. Article creator is a new editor who has never edited any other articles. Dougweller (talk) 14:49, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

• Delete: No evidence of notability. --Guy Macon (talk) 18:13, 24 December 2012 (UTC) Ignore: updated vote below. --Guy Macon (talk) 05:20, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

• Delete: Fails WP:NOTE, will just be a coatrack for fringe. History2007 (talk) 13:52, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

• Keep: Hi, I'm the writer. This article is not a response to any other related articles. I'm not a new editor, I have created others articles in others languages. As per general notability guideline: Topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources, that are independent of the subject. Significant coverage: There are 12 sources independent from the subject. These sources address the subject directly in detail, with no additional research. These sources are reliable: Nexusedizioni is part of the nexusmagazine.com network, which is far to be a a fringe magazine, but is respected all over the world. Sources are not required to be in English: I added multiple sources from Peruvian, Brazilian (Afotorm is the photographic archive of the city of Rolim de Moura) Bolivian and Italian journalists. Independent from the author: there is not self-publicity because there are not direct links to the web of Mr.Leveratto. These reliable sources presumed that this subject is suitable for inclusion. It is not a coatrack because it does discuss the nominal subject and it is not a cover for any related biased subject. Thanks, Cholo 50 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cholo50 (talk • contribs) 22:27, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

:* I am sorry but [http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22Yuri+Leveratto%22 this] and [http://www.google.com/search?tbs=bks:1&q=%22Yuri+Leveratto%22 this] say that it fails WP:NOTE very clearly. And your writing of any other articles has no relevance to this article at all. History2007 (talk) 13:22, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

:**Not links to his website but they are links to material he's written - that's not independent of the author. Nexus is "NEXUS is a bi-monthly alternative news magazine covering health breakthroughs, future science and technology, suppressed news, free energy, religious revisionism, conspiracy, the environment, history and ancient mysteries, the mind, UFOs, paranormal and the unexplained". If that isn't fringe, what is? Publication there does not make him notable. Dougweller (talk) 15:29, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

• Keep: He's notable and the links are reliable (Nexusmagazine). The links added by History2007 are not related to Mr. Leveratto but to Mr. Toscano, other writer.Franciscos58

:* Excuse me? Excuse me? Look at my links again. They are "specific searches" for Yuri Leveratto. Read them. Read them. Your statement is completely incorrect. Trust me, I know how to type. History2007 (talk) 16:24, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

• Comment Again, exactly how does he meet our notability guidelines? Please specify what bit of WP:PEOPLE or WP:GNG he meets? Dougweller (talk) 15:29, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

::His claim to notability may have to be published in Nexus (magazine), of course, given that it is an "unexplained" and paranormal as the material that appears in that magazine. History2007 (talk) 16:46, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

• Keep: He'notable, especially in Brazil and other South American countries. He brought to light the Madeira Fortress, a very important archaeological site, which proves that Andean people had control over the Amazon basin. In Italy he's known for his anti-globalist and pro-degrowth articles, a fact that was not specified by the creator of this voice.Archeologo40 (talk) 20:51, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
• Note that Archeologo40 is a WP:SPA whose only edits have been to articles promoting Leveratto or to AfDs involving him. Dougweller (talk) 22:12, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:37, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:37, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

• Keep: All sources are reliable especially the interview in Antika.itMiguel901 (talk) 16:58, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
• Note I've raised an SPI on some editors involved with articles related to Leveratto. Miguel1901 is a brand new account, never edited before, we have sock puppetry or meat puppetry going on here as there is no way a brand new editor could stumble upon this. Dougweller (talk) 17:06, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
• Delete or Userify -- We seem to be getting a lot of votes from the subject and his fan club. As I said on the AFDs on his articles, I would like to see his work appearing in peer-reviewed journals before I would be happy about keeping it. WP is not the right place for pre-publication interim reports. The fact that (accordingly to Archeologo40) he is pursuing archaeology as a means of promoting a political agenda makes me all the more suspecicious. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:07, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
• Delete: There is no notability and the sources are clearly self published.Nickm57 (talk) 00:28, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

• Keep: To user Peterkingiron: When I created the article I inserted only 12 sources, actually I could have add much more, especially like the first and the second here below: Archeomedia.net which is a well respected italian archaeological magazine, or like you mention peer-reviewed journal. Oher sources can be added like the others I am showing here: I am not adding them inside the article because I am not sure this is the right procedure.

• [http://www.archeomedia.net/scoperte-e-scavi/37992-brasile-spedizione-nella-selva-del-rio-guapore-il-grande-mistero-della-citta-perduta-di-labirinto.html]
• [http://www.archeomedia.net/scoperte-e-scavi/37991-brasile-spedizione-nella-selva-della-rondonia-la-scoperta-della-fortezza-del-rio-madeira.html]

• [http://silviomelohistoria.blogspot.com/2012_03_01_archive.html]
• [http://www.afotorm.com.br/html/noticia/2011/reino-paititi.html]
• [http://alekspalitot.blogspot.com/2012_03_01_archive.html]
• [http://www.myeditor.it/blog/spedizione-nella-selva-del-rio-guapore-il-grande-mistero-della-citta-perduta-di-labirinto/]
• [http://www.astronavepegasus.it/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2349:spedizione-nella-selva-del-rio-guapore-il-grande-mistero-della-citta-perduta-di-labirinto&catid=87:archologia&Itemid=60]
• [http://sonoconte.over-blog.it/article-spedizione-nella-selva-del-rio-guapore-il-grande-mistero-della-citta-perduta-di-labirinto-101190960.html]

ThanksCholo50 (talk) 15:14, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

• Comment Articles by the subject in blogs, online magazines, etc do not show notability, see WP:PEOPLE. Dougweller (talk) 17:48, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

:::* Cholo just voted twice... Elections in Chicago used to be like that a few years ago.... History2007 (talk) 22:35, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

• Note: The following editors may be the same person (they all edit the same narrow range of articles and all the IPs geolocate to Bogota Colombia.)

:{{user|Franciscos58}}

:{{user|Cholo50}}

:{{user|Archeologo40}}

:{{user|190.146.254.220}}

:{{user|190.147.16.36}}

:{{user|190.146.116.208}}

:{{user|190.65.163.106}}

:{{user|186.115.57.7}}

:--Guy Macon (talk) 20:34, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

• Delete After going through the references in the article, searching in Google Colombia and Italy and just about everywhere I could think of, I am left with a small network of 3 fringe websites that seem to republish anything this person writes on his blog. None of them even remotely approaches WP:RS. I cannot establish notability under anything, even basic WP:GNG at this point. And the proliferation of SPAs here and the other related articles that have been deleted or are in the process of being deleted speaks volumes - so much effort that could be channeled into properly sourcing the articles instead. But of course, there are no real sources. And given the issues here I'd even recommend a WP:SALT of this title to the closing admin. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 07:05, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:GNG. //Gbern3 (talk) 07:08, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
• Delete Non-notable article, fails GNG and WP:PEOPLE. Hto9950 (talk | contribs) 15:56, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

• Socks All of the editors !voting Keep except for Miguel, who I forgot to include, have been blocked as socks of Archeologo40. If this wasn't at AfD it could be deleted routinely as the creation of a sockpuppet. Dougweller (talk) 22:09, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

• Delete and Snow Close No evidence of notability, overwhelming consensus for deletion once sockpuppet votes are disregarded. --Guy Macon (talk) 05:20, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

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