Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zdzisław Henneberg

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While valiant, sourcing is only through non-RS sources, or are simply mentions. Meets neither WP:GNG or any of the 8 items of WP:NSOLDIER. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 02:14, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 02:14, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

• Query does being a fighter ace satisfy WP:SOLDIER? I'm sure this has been discussed at length before. If not then its Delete Mztourist (talk) 03:58, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Poland-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 05:31, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

• :Comment - No, simply being an ace is not one of the 8 criteria for WP:NSOLDIER.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 08:36, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
• Keep per comments below regarding aces Mztourist (talk) 10:43, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
• sadlyDelete Clearly does not meet our notability threshold.Slatersteven (talk) 09:45, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
• Delete those who won the Battle of Britain may have been designated by Winston Churchill as "so few", but they were not few enough to be notable. We likewise do not have articles on all of the 300 heros of Sparta who fought at Thermopolae.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:41, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
• Redirect to No. 303 Squadron RAF, as in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tadeusz Arentowicz. This was a brave man who did in battle, but his story is the story of the 303. MozeTak (talk) 05:50, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
• Keep. We have always considered that being an ace does qualify one for an article. We have hundreds of articles on people notable only for being aces and a number of AfDs have confirmed this. In addition, his four decorations, while none probably above third-level, together probably do qualify him. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:31, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
• Keep. He was awarded the highest military decoration of his country, which is item 1 of WP:SOLDIER, and was also decorated by the UK and France. Arguably he meets item 4, having "played an important role in a significant military event", namely the Battle of Britain. And there seem to be enough details about his "birth, personal life, education and military career" which the policy indicates would merit a standalone article. Anyway, personally I would rather see articles on every single one of The Few because of their accomplishment while the encyclopedia is full of articles on non-entities who happened to be born into a titled family. FrankP (talk) 11:22, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
• Keep per FrankP. Apart from the sources in the article, there is info about his WWII career in Polish Aces of World War 2 (Bloomsbury Publishing, 2013) [https://books.google.com.au/books?id=HlSICwAAQBAJ&pg=PT160&dq=%22Zdzis%C5%82aw+Henneberg%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj2u-WO8cHmAhUv73MBHeS2Ch0Q6AEIKTAA#v=onepage&q=%22Zdzis%C5%82aw%20Henneberg%22&f=false] and Poles in Defence of Britain by the same author [https://books.google.com.au/books?id=Iy3gDAAAQBAJ&pg=PT65&dq=%22Zdzis%C5%82aw+Henneberg%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj2u-WO8cHmAhUv73MBHeS2Ch0Q6AEIMTAB#v=onepage&q=%22Zdzis%C5%82aw%20Henneberg%22&f=false]; Kosciuszko, We Are Here!: American Pilots of the Kosciuszko Squadron in Defense of Poland, 1919-1921 (McFarland, 2017) says "In recognition of the 303rd in December 1941, its best airmen, Lt. Witold Urbanowizc, M. Feric, Zdzisław Henneberg, and Jan Zumbach, were awarded the highest decoration of the RAF, the DFC" [https://books.google.com.au/books?id=vNolDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT188&dq=%22Zdzis%C5%82aw+Henneberg%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj2u-WO8cHmAhUv73MBHeS2Ch0Q6AEIQTAD#v=onepage&q=%22Zdzis%C5%82aw%20Henneberg%22&f=false]; and there are other books in Polish, too. RebeccaGreen (talk) 14:19, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

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