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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} delete. Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:45, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Miss Hong Kong prize winners to :Category:Miss Hong Kong award winners

:Nominator's rationale: {{{3|The category should be renamed to "award winners" instead of "prize winners" as it includes delegates who just special award winners as well, not just the top 3 "prize" winners. smileydude66 (talk) 23:04, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}}

• Delete - if I'm understanding the purpose of the category, it is not for women who are named "Miss Hong Kong" within any pageant structure such as Miss World or Miss Universe but is instead for any competitor in the Miss Hong Kong Pageant who wins any prize or award through that pageant. It would be like having a category for the winners of "Miss Congeniality" or "Miss Photogenic" from the Miss USA pageant. Otto4711 (talk) 23:37, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per Otto. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:03, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} delete. Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:05, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Nintendo Setting articles}}

:Nominator's rationale: {{{3|Category is empty due to article consolidation. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 21:48, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}}

• Delete per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:03, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
• Comment I created this category a long time ago hoping that others would fill it. It goes along with the other ones in :Category:Nintendo articles by type. This one was intended for fictional Nintendo settings (such as Hyrule). I just thought it would be easier having the articles sorted by type. If it isn't working out I have no problem with it being deleted, but if someone wanted to help out with filling it, it could be useful. –User:{{{User (User talk:{{{User • Special:Contributions/{{{User • [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate?username={{urlencode:{{{User|bse3}}}}}&site={{SERVERNAME}} count] • [{{fullurl:Special:Log|user={{urlencode:{{ucfirst:{{{User|bse3}}}}}}}}} logs]) 01:34, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} merge :Category:Thor to :Category:Marvel Comics Asgardians. Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:46, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

{{Lc|Thor}}

Delete-Nominator's rationale: This cat is parented by :Category:Marvel Comics Asgardians which is more encompassing; however, the bulk of characters are duel eligible. There is no need to sub cat these characters at the expense of the parent cat, in addition there no need for redundancy. -66.109.248.114 (talk) 21:34, 10 December 2007 (UTC).

• Merge to :Category:Marvel Comics Asgardians. No need to subcat these out. Otto4711 (talk) 01:19, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
• Merge this wouldn't be the proper title for the comic book Thor. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:04, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

::Comment: I would recommend outright deletion over merge, as all the characters in the Thor cat are already listed in the Asgardian cat. -66.109.248.114 (talk) 23:54, 15 December 2007 (UTC).

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} delete. Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:48, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Rival Schools characters}}

:Nominator's rationale: {{{3|One character category per article consolidation. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 21:18, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}}

• Delete not needed. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:05, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} rename to :Category:Hip hop fashion. As long as the article redirects to hip hop fashion, the category should be named that. If an article on urban fashion is written that shows significant differences, this can be reconsidered.--Mike Selinker (talk) 01:58, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Urban fashion}}

:Nominator's rationale: Marketing term w/o clear definition, highly dependent on region and a time. As more than half of population on the planet lives in urban areas it may be hard to identify what will not eventually end up in this category. Created by a new user enriching Wikipedia with ad-like articles about fashion brands. Urban fashion was originally redirect to Hip hop fashion, now it points to the category. Pavel Vozenilek (talk) 21:03, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

• Comment. Seems potentially duplicative of hip hop fashion. I would just leave that one personally unless someone can explain the criteria that differentiate the two. By the way, the articles this new user is adding are good and of brands/concepts that are or appear notable in urban/hip-hop fashion. I'm surprised we didn't have an article about (for example) all over print already. 68.160.5.32 (talk) 04:14, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Urban fashion is subjective and changes over time. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:06, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
• Merge or Rename Merge to :Category:Hip hop fashion or :Category:2000s fashion or rename to Street fashion or Streetwear or "Contemporary streetwear". Several of these have no other cats & should not be orphaned. Johnbod (talk) 22:38, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
• Comment. The objections to the vagueness of the term urban fashion are well taken. However, the term is commonly used as a self-description among people who are familiar with it, and is somewhat synonymous with streetwear. I chose to create urban fashion because it is the most general descriptor, in my opinion somewhat more inclusive than streetwear. I think an article entitled urban fashion, or contemporary urban fashion, needs to be written and hip hop fashion should be subsumed underneath that moniker. This is because hip hop fashion is quite clearly a part of a larger movement that includes significant contributions from other areas (such as Japanese bricolage design) that don't necessarily identify with hip hop culture. To respond to the above deletion comment, urban fashion, like all areas of fashion, obviously changes over time but also has a clear continuity, and anyone who spends even a cursory amount of time researching the topic (Format Magazine, Sneaker Freaker) will see it that it is an international and unitary design culture. Munificentdesign (talk) 23:59, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} delete. Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:50, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Phantasy Star characters}}

:Nominator's rationale: {{{3|Empty category. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 20:56, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}}

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} merge into :Category:Quest for Glory and :Category:Lists of video game characters. Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:52, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Quest for Glory characters}}

:Nominator's rationale: {{{3|One article in whole category. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 20:51, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}}

Upmerge to :Category:Quest for Glory and :Category:Lists of video game characters. Otto4711 (talk) 01:23, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} delete. Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:51, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Kirby characters}}

:Nominator's rationale: {{{3|Empty category, subcategory also empty due to article consolidation. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 20:49, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}}

Delete - although the category is not empty, the one article in it is well-enough categorized without this category. Otto4711 (talk) 01:25, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. TTN (talk) 23:38, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} delete. Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:05, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Farscape planets}}

:Nominator's rationale: {{{3|Empty category. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 20:46, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}}

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} delete. Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:05, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Futurama planets}}

:Nominator's rationale: {{{3|Category now empty per article consolidation. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 20:44, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}}

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} delete. Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:05, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Nightmare Enterprises monsters}}

:Nominator's rationale: {{{3|Category now empty Judgesurreal777 (talk) 20:17, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}}

• Delete per nom. TTN (talk) 23:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} delete. After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 04:33, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Charismatic religious leaders}}

:Nominator's rationale: {{{3|Renominating because previous nominator did not tag the category. Previous nominator had nominated saying "isn't this POV?" Lquilter (talk) 18:49, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}}

• delete - Isn't this POV? - Yes, it is. I had assumed that this would be an unfortunately ambiguous title for leaders in the Charismatic movement, but, no; this is "religious leaders who have charismatic power" or something like that. (The definition on the category describes it as, This category contains religious leaders whose main basis of authority was or is based on charismatic authority, following Max Weber's classification of authority.) So it should be deleted, or completely redefined and renamed unambiguously to be :Category:Leaders in the charismatic religious movement. --Lquilter (talk) 22:36, 26 November 2007 (UTC) (reposted from prior deletion discussion; notices to previous discussants posted)
• Delete mostly matches the religion section of List of charismatic leaders as defined by Max Weber's classification of authority, which might be acceptable for a list - maybe- but certainly isn't for a category, especially without the explanation in the name. repeating my previous comment. I think bencherlite was correct not to delete an untagged category btw. Johnbod (talk) 19:24, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per Lquilter. Category would be useful if it did classify leaders of the "charismatic movement", but the current definition is POV and very subjective. Snocrates 21:50, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. Almost certainly it would get misused. Pavel Vozenilek (talk) 23:33, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
• Delete redundant with List of charismatic leaders as defined by Max Weber's classification of authority. It's hard enough keeping the list itself 'clean' of assertions that 'person x belongs here because I have a quote saying s/he was charismatic'. Maralia (talk) 21:30, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nom, Johnbod, Lquilter...Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:10, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} rename all. Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:55, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Ajax Amsterdam to :Category:AFC Ajax

:Propose renaming :Category:Ajax Amsterdam managers to :Category:AFC Ajax managers

:Propose renaming :Category:Ajax Amsterdam players to :Category:AFC Ajax players

:Nominator's rationale: {{{3|Rename. To match the category's main article. I am also nominating the category's subcategories for the same reason. – PeeJay 18:47, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}}

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• Rename all per nom & for consistency. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:11, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
• Rename all per nom. Sebisthlm (talk) 00:48, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
• Rename all per PeeJay. Aecis^Brievenbus 22:07, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} delete. Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:57, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

:{{Lc|El Cor de la Ciutat}}

:Nominator's rationale: {{{3|Delete - eponymous overcategorization for TV series. Material doesn't warrant the category per extensive precedent. Otto4711 (talk) 17:49, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}}

• Delete per nom & ample precedent. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:11, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} delete. After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 04:34, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Bear in the Big Blue House}}

:Nominator's rationale: {{{3|Delete - unnecessary eponymous category for the show article. Otto4711 (talk) 17:41, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}}

• Delete per nom & ample precedent. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:11, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} delete. Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:05, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

:{{Lc|The Elder Scrolls creatures}}

:Nominator's rationale: {{{3|Category now empty. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 17:40, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}}

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} delete. Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:05, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Metroid characters}}

:Nominator's rationale: {{{3|Empty category due to article consolidation. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 17:04, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}}

• Delete per nom. TTN (talk) 23:36, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} merge into :Category:Mortal Kombat. Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:05, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Factions in Mortal Kombat}}

:Nominator's rationale: {{{3|All other factions have been deleted except one, upmerge to category Mortal Kombat. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 15:11, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}}

• Merge per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:13, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} delete. -Andrew c ^[talk] 22:40, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

:{{lc|Players who played for both Old Firm clubs}}

:Upmerge to both parents, most players have played for several teams during their careers, and switching to a rival team isn't that uncommon. If kept it should at least be Renamed since Old Firm may not be well known outside of Scotland. -- Prove It ^(talk) 15:01, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

• *This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of football (soccer) related deletions. Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 18:17, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
• Speedy delete as recreation of deleted category: see previous discussion. Tagged. Bencherlite^Talk 23:08, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

:Oh. Speedy delete has been declined on the basis that the category is at CfD and is populated. Should have nuked it myself... Bencherlite^Talk 19:08, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

• Delete - I thought this had coem up before. The previous CfD was fairly clear-cut, so I don't see why it could not have been speedied. The category was populated by its creator. --Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 19:25, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per Bencherlite & nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:13, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
• Keep - I didn't know of the previous CfD debate but that deletion seems to have been based on an argument which seems to be "We should delete this article to prevent others like it from being created", which is logically identical to the WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS argument which has so often been described as fallacious. ugen64 (talk) 05:03, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
• Delete since it is not a defining characteristic and is over categorization. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:47, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} delete/upmerge. -Andrew c ^[talk] 22:52, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

:{{Lc|San Andreas (Grand Theft Auto)}}

:Nominator's rationale: {{{3|There is now only one article in this category. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 14:36, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}}

• Merge to :Category:Grand Theft Auto (video game) 132.205.99.122 (talk) 20:05, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
• Upmerge to :Category:Grand Theft Auto locations (as a better alternative to anon's suggestion). The category previously lists other relevant articles, which eventually merged to San Andreas (Grand Theft Auto). The category has basically outlived its purpose. ╫ ２５ ^{◀RingADing▶} ╫ 17:53, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
• Upmerge per 2 5. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:14, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} merge. -Andrew c ^[talk] 22:48, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

:Suggest merging :Category:Political games to :Category:Government simulation video games

:Nominator's rationale: {{{3|Merge, Very small category. Main article up for AfD. SharkD (talk) 06:26, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}}

• Merge. Category name should be self-explanatory. Doczilla (talk) 07:28, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
• Merge per nom, lest we have dirty tricks included. :-) Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:14, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} delete. Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:12, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

:{{Lc|The Elder Scrolls lore}}

:Nominator's rationale: {{{3|Category is probably empty as you read this, and as of my writing has one article about to be deleted and the other merged, so it will soon be empty. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 06:05, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}}

It should not be deleted because it was just created.

:...last march, and most of the articles in the category have been deleted, with the final two likely to be too. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 13:19, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} delete. After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 04:36, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Fictional loners}}

:Nominator's rationale: {{{3|Delete wholly subjective category that cannot have any objective or non-arbitrary inclusion criteria. Doczilla (talk) 04:57, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}}

• Delete arbitrary criteria for inclusion. Maralia (talk) 21:32, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
• Delete subjective per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:27, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} rename. After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 05:11, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Delaware State Representatives to :Category:Members of the Delaware House of Representatives

:Nominator's rationale: {{{3|Rename. To avoid confusion with :Category:Members of the United States House of Representatives from Delaware; main article is at Delaware House of Representatives; proposed name conforms to general format of subcategories of :Category:Members of state lower houses in the United States. Snocrates 04:22, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}}

• Rename per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:27, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} rename. After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 05:10, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Members of the Nevada Senate to :Category:Nevada State Senators

:Nominator's rationale: {{{3|Rename. All other subcategories of :Category:State senators of the United States are named "Foo State Sentators"; rename for consistency. Snocrates 03:51, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}}

• Rename per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:28, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} merge. After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 05:10, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

:Suggest merging :Category:Legislative branch of Oklahoma government to :Category:Oklahoma Legislature

:Nominator's rationale: {{{3|Merge, Duplicate material and names are different ways of referring to the same thing. No other U.S. state has similarly-named category of "Legislative branch of Foo". Snocrates 02:46, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}}

• Merge per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:28, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} rename. After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 05:10, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Legislative Branch of the Government of Puerto Rico to :Category:Legislative Assembly of Puerto Rico

:Nominator's rationale: {{{3|Use actual name of body; main article is at Legislative Assembly of Puerto Rico. Snocrates 02:43, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}}

• Rename per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:28, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} rename as nominated. The proposed merge makes a lot of sense, but the larger category will have to be nominated first.--Mike Selinker (talk) 02:04, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:U.S. territorial lower houses by territory to :Category:Territorial lower houses in the United States

::Category:U.S. territorial upper houses by territory to :Category:Territorial upper houses in the United States

:Nominator's rationale: {{{3|Expand "U.S."; "by territory" doesn't seem necessary here; format is mirror of :Category:State lower houses in the United States and :Category:State upper houses in the United States. Snocrates 02:14, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}}

• Support nom or suggest the territories and state be merged together, into :Category:State and territorial upper houses in the United States and :Category:State and territorial lower houses in the United States. Only three territories have bicameral legislatures, so the two categories will remain this size. Rigadoun (talk) 04:23, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
• I'd be fine with the merge options too, though it may cause problems with parent category :Category:Territorial legislatures of the United States unless it too is merged with :Category:State legislatures of the United States. Snocrates 04:26, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
• Rename per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:29, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} rename. Until there's a merge proposal, Nebraska will probably have to go in the upper house category.--Mike Selinker (talk) 02:04, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Speakers of state Houses of Representatives to :Category:Speakers of state lower houses in the United States

:Nominator's rationale: {{{3|Not all lower houses in U.S. states are called "House of Representatives". For example, a subcategory is :Category:Speakers of the New York Assembly. The proposed rename is more generic and is a mirror of its parent, :Category:State lower houses in the United States. Snocrates 02:01, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}}

• Comment what do we do with Nebraska with a unicameral legislature? Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:30, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
• Nebraska seems to have been simply left out of the entire "upper house" / "lower house" categorization scheme. There are 49 articles in :Category:State lower houses in the United States. See also :Category:Nebraska Legislature and its subcategories and the related Nebraska CFD below. It used to be bicameral, and there is a :Category:Nebraska State Senators, but it probably needs to be sorted out, because I notice some individuals who are included there are members of the unicameral Legislature and not State Senators. Snocrates 22:33, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
• Rename per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 03:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} delete. Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:05, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Oh My Goddess! episodes}}

:Nominator's rationale: {{{3|The various episodes have been redirected, so it no longer has any use. TTN (talk) 01:31, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}}

• Delete per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 03:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} rename. After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 04:49, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Wisconsin State Legislature to :Category:Wisconsin Legislature

:Nominator's rationale: {{{3|Main article is at Wisconsin Legislature; subcategory is :Category:Members of the Wisconsin Legislature; rename for consistency. Snocrates 01:30, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}}

• Rename per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 03:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} rename. After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 04:49, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Nebraska State Legislators to :Category:Members of the Nebraska Legislature

:Nominator's rationale: {{{3|Parent category is :Category:Nebraska Legislature; rename for consistency with other subcategories of :Category:State legislators of the United States. Snocrates 01:26, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}}

• Rename per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 03:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} rename. After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 04:49, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Hawaii State Legislature to :Category:Hawaii Legislature

:Nominator's rationale: {{{3|Main article is at Hawaii Legislature; subcategory is :Category:Members of the Hawaii Legislature; rename for consistency. Kingdom of Hawaii had no legislature. Snocrates 01:23, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}}

• Rename per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 03:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} rename. After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 04:48, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Vermont Legislature to :Category:Vermont General Assembly

:Nominator's rationale: {{{3|Name of the state legislature in Vermont is the General Assembly. Main article is at Vermont General Assembly. Subcategory is :Category:Members of the Vermont General Assembly. Snocrates 01:20, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}}

• Rename per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 03:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} rename. After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 04:48, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Maine State Legislature to :Category:Maine Legislature

:Nominator's rationale: {{{3|Rename for consistency with main (ha ha) article, Maine Legislature. Subcategory is :Category:Members of the Maine Legislature. Snocrates 01:18, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}}

• Rename per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 03:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} rename. After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 04:48, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Washington State Representatives to :Category:Members of the Washington House of Representatives

:Nominator's rationale: {{{3|To avoid confusion with :Category:Members of the United States House of Representatives from Washington. Relevant article is at Washington House of Representatives; proposed name conforms to general format of subcategories of :Category:Members of state lower houses in the United States. Snocrates 01:16, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}}

• Rename per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 03:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} rename. After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 04:47, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Minnesota State Legislature to :Category:Minnesota Legislature

::Category:Members of the Minnesota State Legislature to :Category:Members of the Minnesota Legislature

:Nominator's rationale: {{{3|Main article is at Minnesota Legislature; rename categories for consistency. Snocrates 01:09, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}}

• Rename per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 03:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} rename. After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 04:47, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Alaska State Legislature to :Category:Alaska Legislature

:Nominator's rationale: {{{3|Main article is at Alaska Legislature; subcategory is :Category:Members of the Alaska Legislature; rename category for consistency. Snocrates 01:05, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}}

• Rename per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 03:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} delete. Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:11, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

:{{Lc|Delay Repay participating TOCs}}

:Delete

:Nominator's rationale: {{{3|'Delay Repay' is just the name given by some train operating companies for the clause in the National Rail Conditions of Carriage describing compensation that must be given in the event of severe delays. For this reason, every TOC must participate in 'Delay Repay', even if they don't call it that, and by that reasoning every TOC should be in this category. However, all UK TOCs are already listed here, and if a category for them is needed, it should not be named 'Delay Repay'. _TheIslander 00:24, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}}

• Delete per nom; non-defining category. Maralia (talk) 21:33, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 03:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} rename. After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 04:47, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Kharkovites to :Category:People from Kharkiv

:Nominator's rationale: {{{3|Rename. Per convention, People from Place. Kolindigo (talk) 00:17, 10 December 2007 (UTC)}}}

• Rename per nom. Masterpiece2000 (talk) 04:34, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
• Rename per nom. Sting_au Talk 05:36, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
• Rename per nom, although at some point the Kharkov/Kharkiv issue should be reversed. --Soman (talk) 21:30, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
• Rename per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 03:38, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

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