Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 September 20#Districts of England

= September 20 =

== Category:Invertebrates of Lithuania ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 12:33, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Invertebrates of Lithuania to :Category:Invertebrates of Europe

:Nominator's rationale: Per Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2018_July_28#Category:Invertebrates_of_Croatia. DexDor (talk) 19:46, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

  • Support per nom. Oculi (talk) 12:31, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

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== Districts of England ==

:The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

:The result of the discussion was: rename. xplicit 01:46, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Eden, Cumbria to :Category:Eden District

:* Propose renaming :Category:People from Eden (district) to :Category:People from Eden District

:* Propose renaming :Category:Maldon (district) to :Category:Maldon District

:* Propose renaming :Category:Buildings and structures in Maldon (district) to :Category:Buildings and structures in Maldon District

:* Propose renaming :Category:Churches in Maldon (district) to :Category:Churches in Maldon District

:* Propose renaming :Category:Church of England church buildings in Maldon (district) to :Category:Church of England church buildings in Maldon District

:* Propose renaming :Category:People from Maldon (district) to :Category:People from Maldon District

:* Propose renaming :Category:Politics of Maldon (district) to :Category:Politics of Maldon District

:* Propose renaming :Category:Cotswold (district) to :Category:Cotswold District

:* Propose renaming :Category:People from Cotswold (district) to :Category:People from Cotswold District

:* Propose renaming :Category:Stroud (district) to :Category:Stroud District

:* Propose renaming :Category:People from Stroud (district) to :Category:People from Stroud District

:* Propose renaming :Category:Hart (district) to :Category:Hart District

:* Propose renaming :Category:People from Hart (district) to :Category:People from Hart District

:* Propose renaming :Category:Dover (district) to :Category:Dover District

:* Propose renaming :Category:People from Dover (district) to :Category:People from Dover District

:* Propose renaming :Category:Maidstone (borough) to :Category:Borough of Maidstone

:* Propose renaming :Category:People from Maidstone (borough) to :Category:People from the Borough of Maidstone

:* Propose renaming :Category:Craven (district) to :Category:Craven District

:* Propose renaming :Category:Companies based in Craven to :Category:Companies based in Craven District

:* Propose renaming :Category:Craven geography stubs to :Category:Craven District geography stubs

:* Propose renaming :Category:People from Craven (district) to :Category:People from Craven District

:* Propose renaming :Category:Politics of Craven (district) to :Category:Politics of Craven District

:* Propose renaming :Category:Runnymede (borough) to :Category:Borough of Runnymede

:* Propose renaming :Category:People from Runnymede (borough) to :Category:People from the Borough of Runnymede

:* Propose renaming :Category:Waverley, Surrey to :Category:Borough of Waverley

:* Propose renaming :Category:People from Waverley (district) to :Category:People from the Borough of Waverley

:Nominator's rationale: These categories should be renamed to match their head articles, they would be eligable for C2D but for the fact that they have been through CFDs before, when the articles were at "Foo (district)" and "Foo (borough)" rather than "Foo District" or "Borough of Foo", see WP:UKDISTRICTS. The only one that could be potentially ambiguous is Eden due to the Eden District Municipality in Africa but that has been renamed to "Garden Route District Municipality" and probably wouldn't be confused with just "Eden District" anyway. Also the river is in Cumbria and is in districts other than just Eden. See also Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 September 10#Metropolitan boroughs and Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 August 21#Metropolitan boroughs. Crouch, Swale (talk) 11:10, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

:*Question are there people outside the town of Dover who are from the district of Dover? Or does the category only contain people from the town? Laurel Lodged (talk) 13:03, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

::* There is :Category:People from Dover, Kent, subcat of :Category:People from Dover (district). Oculi (talk) 18:14, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

  • Support all follow name of respective article. Oculi (talk) 18:14, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support all Laurel Lodged (talk) 19:53, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

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== Category:International Society for Krishna Consciousness bands ==

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:The result of the discussion was: {{Relisted}} at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 October 4#Category:International Society for Krishna Consciousness bands. xplicit 01:46, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{Lc|International Society for Krishna Consciousness bands}}

:Nominator's rationale: Overcategorization and inaccurate. E.g. Cro-Mags don't really perform Hindu music. Upmerge as appropriate. ―Justin (koavf)TCM 07:17, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

  • keep Currently 4 articles have this category. 3 either have citations or discuss ISKCON influence. The Cro-Mag article might not fit in this category. Hare Krishna topics do not belong mixed with general Hindu topics as people interested in Hinduism generally do not want Hare Krishna topics and vice versa. Blue Rasberry (talk) 00:33, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Merge to :Category:Performers of Hindu music per WP:SMALLCAT, after removal of Cro-Mag only 3 articles left. While some people may not like it, Hare Krishna is regarded to be a Hinduist movement. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:22, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

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== Category:HIV/AIDS denialists ==

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:The result of the discussion was: keep. xplicit 01:46, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{Lc|HIV/AIDS denialists}}

:Nominator's rationale: listify and delete per WP:OPINIONCAT and it is also not a defining characteristic for most of these people. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:06, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

:* Delete Not defining. Rathfelder (talk) 09:01, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

  • Comment: I looked at the member articles for four people whom I had never heard of, and they all prominently mentioned HIV/AIDS denial. – Fayenatic London 21:40, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

:*Keep Looks notable to me. HIV/AIDS is not an opinion, it's a demonstrable scientific fact. Laurel Lodged (talk) 11:47, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

  • Keep -- At one point, this was a seriously held view. Today it is rather similar to holding a conspiracy theory. Such outliers deserve to be highlighted. This is not the equivalent of a political opinion. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:16, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Keep per Peterkingiron. These people are conspiracy theorists. Dimadick (talk) 05:23, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Keep - this is a notable conspiracy theory and the category is defining for some people, even if it should not be added to articles having only a minor link, as per all Wikipedia categories. I am however surprised not to find Jacob Zuma there, the South African President who explained how taking a shower after sex "cuts the risk of contracting HIV". Place Clichy (talk) 15:33, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Keep, with some purging if necessary. For some people (e.g. Duesberg and Maggiore), their role in the HIV/AIDS denialist movement is the primary reason they have an article on here at all, so it's certainly a defining characteristic of their notability. Jacob Zuma certainly expressed a few odd statements about HIV/AIDS, but never once denied that the human immunodeficiency virus even exists as some other people here have done, so he would not belong here — this is not a category for "people who have made strange statements that showed they weren't well educated on HIV/AIDS", but for "people who espoused the conspiracy theory that HIV doesn't even exist at all", and Zuma was not one of those people. Bearcat (talk) 22:53, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Keep The sources cited for individuals in this category treat it as a distinguishing characteristic which is necessary to mention in describing the individuals. Blue Rasberry (talk) 00:27, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

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