Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 March 3#North Macedonia

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:The result of the discussion was: rename/merge per nominator. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:00, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

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:* Propose renaming: :Category:Languedoc-Roussillon region articles needing translation from French Wikipedia to :Category:Occitanie region articles needing translation from French Wikipedia

::*:Category:Aquitaine region articles needing translation from French Wikipedia to :Category:Nouvelle-Aquitaine region articles needing translation from French Wikipedia

::*:Category:Burgundy region articles needing translation from French Wikipedia to :Category:Bourgogne-Franche-Comté region articles needing translation from French Wikipedia

::*:Category:Picardy region articles needing translation from French Wikipedia to :Category:Hauts-de-France region articles needing translation from French Wikipedia

::*:Category:Alsace region articles needing translation from French Wikipedia to :Category:Grand Est region articles needing translation from French Wikipedia

::*:Category:Lower Normandy region articles needing translation from French Wikipedia to :Category:Normandy region articles needing translation from French Wikipedia

::*:Category:Auvergne region articles needing translation from French Wikipedia to :Category:Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes region articles needing translation from French Wikipedia

:* Propose merging: :Category:Midi-Pyrénées region articles needing translation from French Wikipedia to :Category:Occitanie region articles needing translation from French Wikipedia

::*:Category:Limousin region articles needing translation from French Wikipedia to :Category:Nouvelle-Aquitaine region articles needing translation from French Wikipedia

::*:Category:Poitou-Charentes region articles needing translation from French Wikipedia to :Category:Nouvelle-Aquitaine region articles needing translation from French Wikipedia

::*:Category:Franche-Comté region articles needing translation from French Wikipedia to :Category:Bourgogne-Franche-Comté region articles needing translation from French Wikipedia

::*:Category:Nord-Pas-de-Calais region articles needing translation from French Wikipedia to :Category:Hauts-de-France region articles needing translation from French Wikipedia

::*:Category:Champagne-Ardenne region articles needing translation from French Wikipedia to :Category:Grand Est region articles needing translation from French Wikipedia

::*:Category:Lorraine region articles needing translation from French Wikipedia to :Category:Grand Est region articles needing translation from French Wikipedia

::*:Category:Upper Normandy region articles needing translation from French Wikipedia to :Category:Normandy region articles needing translation from French Wikipedia

::*:Category:Rhône-Alpes region articles needing translation from French Wikipedia to :Category:Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes region articles needing translation from French Wikipedia

:Nominator's rationale: per the 2016 reform of French regions, these regional categories need to be renamed and merged to match the current regions. Sadenar40000 (talk) 22:41, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

• Support, meanwhile all other French region categories have been renamed/merged, hopefully these are the last ones. {{ping|Sadenar40000}} procedural request: could you please tag one of these category pages with {{subst:cfr||Category:Languedoc-Roussillon region articles needing translation from French Wikipedia}}, save and then change the date from 4 March to 3 March, then copy the script to the other category pages? See WP:CFD if this is too concise. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:52, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: relisted at WP:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 March 20#Category:CEOs_of_General_Electric. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 07:03, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

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:* Propose renaming: :Category:CEOs of General Electric to :Category:General Electric chief executives or :Category:General Electric chief executive officers

::* :Category:CEOs of CBS to :Category:CBS chief executives or :Category:CBS chief executive officers, or merge :Category:CBS executives and :Category:American chief executives in the media industry

::* :Category:CEOs of NBC to :Category:NBC chief executives or :Category:NBC chief executive officers, or merge :Category:NBC executives and :Category:American chief executives in the media industry

:Nominator's rationale: Per the Foo people convention of evident in :Category:General Electric people, :Category:CBS executives, and :Category:NBC executives. In the case of CBS and NBC, I defer to others whether it is useful to separate CEOs from other executives. (Pinging the categories' creators, User:BornonJune8 and User:Domesticenginerd) -- Black Falcon ^(talk) 20:38, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

• Rename GE/Lean Toward Merge for CBS & NBC GE is clearly defining to the articles, and "chief executive" seems the most common. The articles in the two network categories seems to be acting, or also President so a general executive category seems best. No objection to the other options laid out by the nominator; all the options here are better than the status quo. RevelationDirect (talk) 01:22, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: upmerge :Category:Business CEOs template to parents :Category:Company templates and :Category:Businesspeople templates. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 07:21, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

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:* Propose renaming :Category:Business CEOs template to :Category:Company chief executive templates, or upmerge

:Nominator's rationale: To better align with :Category:Company templates and :Category:Chief executives by company. Alternatively, given the parents are relatively lightly populated, the category could just be upmerged. (Pinging the category's creator, User:Domesticenginerd) -- Black Falcon ^(talk) 19:37, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

• Upmerge, too small to keep. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:22, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:07, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

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:* Propose deleting {{lc|Religion in Belarus by city}}

:Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer since it only contains one subcategory. Merging is not needed, the subcategory already has the right parent categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:34, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 04:05, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

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:* Propose deleting {{lc|Pages using Template:Annual readership}}

:Nominator's rationale: This category seems to have no reason to exist: what is the advantage of the category over Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Annual readership. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 19:17, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

• The category is useful for watchlist monitoring -- the template is often added to pages as they are experiencing an increase in views, and the category allows editors to keep track of this on their watchlist. Also, the category listing is more readable than the WhatLinksHere output. Trivialist (talk) 19:36, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
• Delete I can't see a need for the category. The template has general utility and so might be expected on any article's talk page. The resulting category will therefore tend to be indiscriminate and too long to be useful. Andrew D. (talk) 09:38, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge per nominator. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:57, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

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:* Propose merging :Category:Religion in Hagerstown, Maryland to :Category:Hagerstown, Maryland

:Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, currently only one subcategory (Christianity) and one article (Islam) and it is quite unlikely that a small town like this will have articles about Buddhism, Hinduism etc. Note for the merge target: I'm skipping :Category:Culture of Hagerstown, Maryland as a target because currently it doesn't contain anything else than this religion category. There are no fundamental objections against :Category:Culture of Hagerstown, Maryland, it can always be recreated when needed. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:15, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

• Support These underpopulated categories don't aid navigation and growth (outside of individual houses of worship) is limited. RevelationDirect (talk) 23:05, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
• {{A note}} The category was deleted by {{ping|BrownHairedGirl|p=}} ({{logid|97641803|deletion log}}) with the summary {{tq|emptied as a result of Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_March_3#Category:Religion_in_Hagerstown,_Maryland}} but without officially closing the discussion. BHG, was this an oversight? --DannyS712 (talk) 03:43, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
• It was indeed an oversight, @DannyS712. Sorry I goofed, and thanks for spotting it. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:56, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge, resisting temptation of double-entendre comments. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:59, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

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:* Propose Dual Upmerging :Category:Scrotum piercings to :Category:Male genital piercings and :Category:Scrotum

:Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NARROWCAT

:This intersection category only has 2 articles with limited growth, and neither target category is overly large: the Male genital piercings currently only has 1 direct article. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:45, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. If anyone wants to make a list, the category contained the following 3 pages: Jan E Lovie-Kitchin, Konrad Pesudovs, Max Snodderly. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:42, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

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:* Propose Deleting/Listifying :Category:Recipients of the Garland Clay Award

:Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCAWARD (WP:NONDEFINING)

:Each year, the American Academy of Optometry gives out 12 awards and this one is for the authors of the most cited study in their journal. There was no main article so I created a short description and listified the contents here. 2 of the 3 articles mention this in passing in a long list of awards and one does mention it in the intro but it's a stub article. This award might be defining for the articles themselves but seems undefining to the prominent authors. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:45, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

• Listify then delete as usual in WP:OC#AWARD cases. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:08, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge all to :Category:17th century in Estonia. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 03:06, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

: Propose deleting

:* {{lc|1657 in Estonia}}

:also propose deleting its parent categs, which will be emptied in the 1657 cat is deleted:

:* :Category:1650s in Estonia

:* :Category:Years of the 17th century in Estonia

:Nominator's rationale: Anachronism. This category contains one article, the Battle of Walk. It took place in what was then the Duchy of Estonia (1561–1721) (aka "Swedish Estonia"); the rest of modern Estonia was in the Duchy of Livonia, whose area also included the present-day northern Latvia.

:I am not intrinsically opposed to anachronistic categories, but I don't think it is viable to try to maintain anachronistic categories for contemporary names when shifting boundaries makes them so ambiguous. There might be a case for by-year categories for the Duchy of Estonia (1561–1721) if there were enough articles to populate them ... but at present we don't have any categories for that Duchy. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:39, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

• Support but we have century categories for Estonia since the 12th century, so for consistency in the current tree we should merge to :Category:17th century in Estonia rather than delete. The century categories are food for another nomination, I guess. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:43, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
• Although I created it I think it was one of the red categories I found. I have no objection to its deletion. Is there some guidance about the problems of anachronistic intersections of geography and history?Rathfelder (talk) 08:18, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
• Instead merge to :Category:17th century in Estonia, which should ideally be split into Duchy of Estonia and Duchy of Livonia. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:07, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
• Merger to :Category:17th century in Estonia sounds good to me. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:08, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

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