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:The result of the discussion was: delete. Note that the contents are already in list form at List of U.S. Army installations named for Confederate soldiers. bibliomaniac15 18:25, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose Deleting :Category:U.S. Army installations named for Confederate soldiers

:Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SHAREDNAME

:This category groups U.S. military bases like Fort Bragg and Fort Hood if they were named after Confederate leaders. These articles generally do mention who they were named after in passing and these names have become increasingly controversial. Nonetheless, grouping major military installations by how they were named doesn't seem defining. The contents of this category are already listified in List of U.S. Army installations named for Confederate soldiers for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 22:10, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

• Background We recently deleted similar categories for counties named after Confederate leaders here. - RevelationDirect (talk) 22:10, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
• Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 00:51, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
• Delete as the topics being categorized are military bases (not names of military bases) and (e.g. unlike a statue) a base's primary purpose is not being a memorial. Note: less than a year ago a CFD on this category was (surprisingly IMO) closed as keep. DexDor ^(talk) 18:50, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

::Oh, and I was the nominator! Should have referenced this in the nom. RevelationDirect (talk) 22:56, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

• Keep In light of :Removal of Confederate monuments and memorials and :List of monument and memorial controversies in the United States, I think it is important to have a list of current military installations of the US military where the namesakes were high ranking officers of the confederacy. Most of these names were put in as part of the now discredited :Lost Cause of the Confederacy --rogerd (talk) 16:24, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

::Categories (apart from BLP etc) are for permanent characteristics of a topic. If something is renamed that shouldn't affect its categorization.  If something ceases to exist then that shouldn't affect its categorization except for possibly being moved down into a "former" category and being placed in a disestablishments category.  Thus, if you want "a list of current military installations of the US military [named] ..." then a list (with any date at which the installation was renamed/closed) would be more appropriate than a category. DexDor ^(talk) 17:19, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

• Delete per nom, at worst listify if there is not already a list. This seems to be an accessory quality of these facilities. IIRC there are Confederates who then fought for the Union, e.g. in the Spanish-American War. What would that say about places named after them, that they celebrate the Confederate or Union part of their biography? The Civil War was a civil war after all. Place Clichy (talk) 17:22, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
• Delete little different than :Category:Cities named for Stalin and its ilk deleted long ago. (Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2007_April_11#Eponymous_cities). Carlossuarez46 (talk) 17:26, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Upmerge Timrollpickering (talk) 22:38, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose Upmerging :Category:Statues of lions with spheres to :Category:Sculptures of lions

:Nominator's rationale: Per WP:TRIVIALCAT

:I can't accuse this category of false advertising: they are all statues of lions with spheres. But we don't have an article about a Lion with sphere as an artistic motif and this seems like too generic of an element to be defining. (Alternatively, we could dual upmerge to :Category:Spherical objects.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 21:21, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

• Delete Trivial intersection. This category is a load of spherical objects. Grutness...wha? 04:19, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
• Keep The rationale for this category is a pendant of the Commons category :commons:Category:Statues of lions with spheres, the purpose of which is to identify the various sculptures that may be important influences to or derivatives of the famous Medici lions and the Chinese guardian lions. /Urbourbo (talk) 11:04, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
• Support as trivial. Besides there is a list at Medici lions#Copies that is way more complete than this category ever will be. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:22, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
• Upmerge per nom. This information is better suited for the article realm. The Commons category can be linked from there. Place Clichy (talk) 16:46, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
• Support upmerge. Extremely trivial. Kbdank71 15:27, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. bibliomaniac15 19:08, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Islamophobia in scholarship}}

:Nominator's rationale: Based on the category name, one would expect it to contain articles about incidents or aspects of Islamophobia; but instead it groups two scholars who are [allegedly] Islamophobes. This is contrary to the guidance given at the parent category :Category:Anti-Islam sentiment, "It must not include articles about individuals, groups or media that are allegedly anti-Islam". (I would have no objection to keeping or recreating this category if there were articles appropriate to include in it.) Cheers, gnu57 17:58, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

• Delete Practically empty category. The parent category is "works", so this should include books and not specific writers. Dimadick (talk) 18:34, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
• Delete Empty category which serves little purpose. Sadkσ (talk is cheap) 19:10, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
• Rename/merge to something like :Category:Academics critical of Islam. One of the authors is concerned with the oppression of minorities in Islamic countries. The other is a psychologist concerned with terrorism by Muslims. Islamophobia means "fear of Islam", but I am not sure that is what either is expressing. A further group who would fit in my target are certain Christian (and perhaps Jewish) theologians concerned with studying the differences between their religion and Islam. Perhaps we have a category for them already, to merge to. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:00, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
• : There are already {{Cl|Critics of Islam}} and :Category:Islam critical scholars. Inclusion criteria are applied quite irregularly though, with the usual lot of problems. Place Clichy (talk) 18:20, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Place Clichy (talk) 18:20, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:05, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Kbdank71 15:28, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
• Delete. PPEMES (talk) 21:16, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
• Delete while checking if an item is missing in :Category:Islam critical scholars. gidonb (talk) 13:18, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: alt merge. bibliomaniac15 18:31, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Armenian churches in Yerevan to :Category:Armenian Apostolic churches in Yerevan

:Nominator's rationale: merge, as far as I can see the two categories have the same purpose. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:50, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

• Comment: 'Armenian churches' usually also refers to churches of the Armenian Catholic Church and the Armenian Evangelical Church. I am not sure if these two have a presence in Yerevan though. Place Clichy (talk) 23:12, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

:* It is very unlikely. Union of the Armenian Evangelical Churches in the Near East does not have any presence in Armenia, while the Armenian Catholic Church is mainly present in the rural areas in the north of Armenia. According to Religion in Armenia, the spread of Christianity apart from the Armenian Apostolic Church is negligable. Marcocapelle (talk) 00:45, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

:*: Article [http://noravank.am/eng/issues/detail.php?ELEMENT_ID=4635 Armenian Protestants], cited in source on article Armenian Evangelical Church, cites activity of the Protestants in Armenia proper, both in early Soviet times and since 1995. Place Clichy (talk) 02:37, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. In the current state of the category, it is clearly a duplicate. Place Clichy (talk)
• Also support alt merge to :Category:Armenian Apostolic church buildings in Yerevan per discussion below. Place Clichy (talk) 14:00, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
• Alt 1 The nom will be aware of my antipathy for the use of the word "churches" to hide whether denominations or brick buildings are in scope. In areas like this, such obfuscation is dangerous and ought to be avoided. So I prefer that the merge take place now and then later the candidate be renamed to :Category:Church buildings of the Armenian Apostolic Church in Yerevan or to :Category:Armenian Apostolic Church church buildings in Yerevan. Laurel Lodged (talk) 09:32, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
• : I agree that "church" is ambiguous and would prefer that all churches categories be renamed to church buildings. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:55, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
• :: I agree with a merger of the two nominated categories towards a title including church buildings. It should probably be :Category:Armenian Apostolic church buildings in Yerevan, removing a redundancy in Laurel Lodged's suggestion, as in :Category:Armenian Apostolic church buildings in Georgia (country). Place Clichy (talk) 14:44, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
• Merge both to :Category:Armenian Apostolic church buildings in Yerevan. I followed various links. It seems the Armenian Catholics are largely in one province around Gyumri, so that all those in Yerevan are likely to belong to the national denomination. I suspect all the Evangelicals are in other Middle East countries (or immigrant communities in the West). Peterkingiron (talk) 18:18, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
• Merge both per {{u|Peterkingiron}}. PPEMES (talk) 21:18, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. bibliomaniac15 19:11, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Top Schools in Kenya}}

:Nominator's rationale: This category is asking for trouble. It is also scarcely populated. gidonb (talk) 15:34, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

• Delete Feels like WP:TOPTEN if it had a source or WP:SUBJECTIVECAT without one. Either way, the 2 articles are already well categorized. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:22, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
• Delete as subjective. Marcocapelle (talk) 00:54, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
• Delete. No definition of what "top" means here, making it subjective. Kbdank71 15:31, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: procedural close to allow for a more complete nomination. bibliomaniac15 18:36, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Media personalities to :Category:Mass media people

:Nominator's rationale: Merge or clarify the titles if there in fact is a difference. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 14:01, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

• Support in principle, this seems to be a redundant category layer, since the category is mainly just divided in radio and TV personalities. However the proposal only makes sense if all nationality subcategories are included in the merger, this needs to become a batch nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:52, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
• {{ping|Marcocapelle}} Would you be willing to do that? This nomination could be procedurally closed then. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 12:47, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. bibliomaniac15 19:11, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Sir John Kothalawala College}}

:Nominator's rationale: Only the namesake article populating the cat. Doesn't seem to have more pages coming. Cossde (talk) 13:04, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

• Support, one other article in the category, but this is probably going to be merged in the main article. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:57, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
• Delete for Now Too small to aid navigation but no objection to recreating if we ever get up to 5 articles. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:22, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
• Delete an article on the school and another on a regular cricket match with another school are too little to make a category. Since it relates to school sport, I am doubtful whether the cricket match article should be allowed. I note there is no alumni category. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:22, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. bibliomaniac15 19:11, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Royal College, Horana}}

:Nominator's rationale: Only the namesake article populating the cat. Doesn't seem to have more pages coming. Cossde (talk) 13:02, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

• Speedy per WP:C2F. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:59, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
• Speedy per WP:C2F. No objection to recreating if it ever gets up to 5 articles defined by the topic. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:23, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
• Delete an article on the school and another on a regular cricket match with another school are too little to make a category. Since it relates to school sport, I am doubtful whether the cricket match article should be allowed. I note there is no alumni category. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:23, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: no consensus to merge, so rename. No preferred names were indicated; I will use the ones with "players" including :Category:League of Legends AD Carry players as I am guessing that these are most useful. – Fayenatic London 22:34, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Top laners to :Category:League of Legends top laners or :Category:League of Legends top lane players

:* Propose renaming :Category:Junglers to :Category:League of Legends junglers or :Category:League of Legends jungle players

:* Propose renaming :Category:Mid laners to :Category:League of Legends mid laners or :Category:League of Legends mid lane players

:* Propose renaming :Category:AD Carries to :Category:League of Legends ADC players or :Category:League of Legends AD Carry players or :Category:League of Legends bottom laners or :Category:League of Legends bottom lane players

:* Propose renaming :Category:Support players to :Category:League of Legends supports or :Category:League of Legends support players

:Nominator's rationale: "x laners", "junglers" don't mean anything to people that don't play MOBAs. "Support players" could also be confused with other games, like Overwatch or TF2. I can also see merging these into :Category:League of Legends players as an alternative. Anarchyte (talk • work) 12:57, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

• Rename in Some Fashion/Neutral on Merge The current category names are baffling. I'll defer to people more familiar with the topic to confirm the new names. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:24, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
• Certain rename but why not merge all to :Category:League of Legends players or :Category:League of Legends gamers. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:26, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
• Merge all to :Category:League of Legends players, there aren't even articles about e.g. Top laner or Mid laner. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:25, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
• Merge per Marco. --Izno (talk) 17:01, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
• Support renaming, and oppose merge because of the size of the category it would create. "don't mean anything to people that don't play MOBAs." is irrelevant and kind of a WP:IDONTLIKEIT argument. These laning distinctions are every bit as important to spectators watching the game as distinctions such as :Category:Association football goalkeepers are to football watchers.--Prisencolin (talk) 01:20, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

::{{ping|prisencolin}} I meant as the categories are currently named, they mean nothing to most people. It's a rationale for renaming, not deleting. Anarchyte (talk • work) 03:10, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

::* The distinction may be important to spectators but the question is whether the distinction has encyclopledic relevance. By lack of articles I am assuming it has not. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:46, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

• Support renaming, oppose merge per Prisencolin. This should follow the conventions of any sport, where the position one plays is a defining feature. They do need to point specifically to League of Legends though, otherwise laners for DOTA 2 or Heroes of Newerth may slip in. bibliomaniac15 18:40, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Merge/Delete Timrollpickering (talk) 16:10, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Elections in Amagasaki to :Category:Amagasaki

:* Propose merging :Category:Elections in Chūō, Tokyo to :Category:Chūō, Tokyo

:* Propose merging :Category:Elections in Fukagawa, Hokkaido to :Category:Fukagawa, Hokkaido

:* Propose merging :Category:Elections in Higashiōsaka to :Category:Higashiōsaka and :Category:Local elections in Japan (and add 2006 Higashiosaka by-election to :Category:Elections in Osaka Prefecture)

:* Propose merging :Category:Elections in Kawasaki, Kanagawa to :Category:Kawasaki, Kanagawa

:* Propose merging :Category:Elections in Kobe to :Category:Kobe

:* Propose merging :Category:Elections in Meguro to :Category:Meguro and :Category:Local elections in Japan

:* Propose merging :Category:Elections in Minato, Tokyo to :Category:Minato, Tokyo

:* Propose deleting :Category:Elections in Nishihara

:* Propose merging :Category:Elections in Ōta, Tokyo to :Category:Ōta, Tokyo and :Category:Local elections in Japan

:* Propose merging :Category:Elections in Shibuya to :Category:Shibuya

:* Propose merging :Category:Elections in Shinagawa to :Category:Shinagawa and :Category:Local elections in Japan

:* Propose merging :Category:Elections in Shinjuku to :Category:Shinjuku and :Category:Local elections in Japan

:* Propose deleting :Category:Elections in Zushi

:Nominator's rationale: upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT, most categories contain just one article, some contain 2 or 3 articles. In an number of cases a second merge target is not needed, in those cases the article is already in :Category:Mayoral elections in Japan. In case of Nishihara and Zushi a first merge target is lacking as well because there is no category for those two cities. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:51, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

• Support No objection to recreating if any ever get up to 5 articles but these small categories hinder rather than help navigation. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:25, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
• Merge all. Agree with RevelationDirect, recreation ok if enough articles to support having category. Kbdank71 15:34, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: nomination withdrawn. bibliomaniac15 19:12, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:The World at War episodes to :Category:The World at War

:Nominator's rationale: Remove the word "episodes" from the title so as to broaden the scope in accordance with the category description which accommodates all articles related to the series. The category has considerable potential given the importance of the series in TV documentary history and of the many significant people who were actively involved. No Great Shaker (talk) 09:29, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

• Nomination withdrawn. Going about this the wrong way. Apologies. No Great Shaker (talk) 12:33, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
• Support per WP:SMALLCAT, without prejudice against recreation once there are more than a handful of episode articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:06, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename to :Category:Nazi Party officials. bibliomaniac15 18:45, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Nazi leaders to :Category:Nazi politicians

:Nominator's rationale: Excessively vague and undefined scope. What exactly is a "Nazi leader"? What rank do you have to be to be a "leader"? Also, it seems duplicative of :Category:Nazi politicians. buidhe 09:22, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

• Support. There was in fact only one Nazi leader. The likes of Goering were senior Nazi politicians. No Great Shaker (talk) 09:31, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose for now, because currently :Category:Nazi politicians contains politicians of other parties than the NSDAP. So first :Category:Nazi politicians needs to be renamed to something else, thereafter :Category:Nazi leaders may be renamed to :Category:Nazi politicians. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:47, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

::I agree with that approach. Good thinking. No Great Shaker (talk) 09:56, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

::Nazi politicians are currently defined as "politicians of parties who collaborated & ideologically aligned with Nazi Germany". I would recommend moving to :Category:Collaborationist politicians ("collaborationism" almost always refers to wwii), purging NSDAP politicians, and then moving :Category:Nazi leaders to :Category:Nazi politicians. buidhe 19:26, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

::* Not sure whether that rename is unambiguous enough. In any case this nomination needs to be reformatted and this other category needs to be tagged for CfD as well. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:17, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

• Support. Politician is a profession. Whether a politician is senior (a leader) or not is not a defining charactaristic but the result of the objective functions Nazi politicians have held and of the geographic scale one is looking at, making :Category:Nazi leaders both unnecessary and inherently subjective. gidonb (talk) 00:26, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

:* "A "politician" can be anyone who seeks to achieve political power in any bureaucratic institution." Leaders require followers, and I dont think the Nazi party often operated like that, so I agree "leaders" should go. But I'm not sure all of these people can be called politicians. Rathfelder (talk) 09:32, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

• :Addendum: some relevant points are raised below that do no change my opinion, however, the merge clearly needs to be selective. Only when real Nazi politicians. A category :Category:Officials of Nazi Germany already exists for the other cases where, to IZAK's example, Albert Speer is included. If one wants to change the name of :Category:Officials of Nazi Germany, please discuss it there. I suggest limiting this discussion to :Category:Nazi leaders and :Category:Nazi politicians. Tagging Marcocapelle, Place Clichy, No Great Shaker, and IZAK, who may want to give this another look.gidonb (talk) 21:26, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
• :: Well the trouble with leaders is obviously that it is subjective. I still like my below suggestion of :Category:Nazi Party officials, because if I get it well the scope of this category is restricted people who belonged to the Party and ranked high in it (or in Nazi Germany at large, but you would have had to be a member of the Party for that). We can also consider :Category:Nazi Party leaders and officials, after main article List of Nazi Party leaders and officials. Place Clichy (talk) 21:36, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
• ::: So you agree that leaders is subjective. Not answered is that we already have :Category:Officials of Nazi Germany. The subjective category can be deleted -that's the proposal- and its members can be dispersed between :Category:Officials of Nazi Germany and :Category:Nazi politicians. Unclear why we have all these other suggestions for new categories here, totally without reference to what we already have. gidonb (talk) 05:58, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
• ::::To the closing person: I neither support nor object to :Category:Nazi Party officials. I just want the subjective Nazi leaders gone. If creating :Category:Nazi Party officials will build the consensus (it sure looks that way) that would rid of Nazi leaders that would be a good thing. The supports for this track are divided between oppose, support, and rename. Hence my request to focus the discussion. gidonb (talk) 07:08, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
• Second problem, while all people in this category were important NSDAP party officials, few of them were politicians in the usual meaning of the word. For example, Gunter d'Alquen was chief editor of the SS weekly Das Schwarze Korps. Renaming to :Category:German Nazi officials or :Category:NSDAP officials seems more appropriate. Marcocapelle (talk) 01:06, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
• : I agree with everything written by Marcocapelle here. Let me suggest :Category:Nazi Party officials per Nazi Party. Note that while there were (are) nazis in many countries, there was only ever one Nazi Party. Place Clichy (talk) 16:50, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
• :: For consistency I agree with that. (Although it surprises me that the article is at Nazi Party rather than at NSDAP. While abbreviations are generally not preferred, I would have expected an exemption here.) Marcocapelle (talk) 19:49, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
• ::: Use of the word 'nazi' is certainly more prevalent than NSDAP, national-socialist or National Socialist German Workers' Party. Place Clichy (talk) 21:36, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose because not every leader was a politician. For example, Albert Speer was a leader but not a politician. IZAK (talk) 20:28, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

:: What about Reich Ministry of Armaments and War Production? PPEMES (talk) 21:19, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

:::{{ping|PPEMES}} what about it? Not everyone who heads a ministry or government department is a politician. IZAK (talk) 17:51, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

:::: Have I misread the article politician? PPEMES (talk) 17:54, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

::::* Albert Speer also fits in :Category:Nazi Party officials as alternatively proposed. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:27, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

::::*Politician is a screwed-up a definition of activist, routinely used as a category title around here. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 17:29, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose. Politicians aren't necessarily leaders. It would make more sense to rename as :Category:Nazi Party officials per Place Clichy. Kbdank71 15:39, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
• Rename :Category:Nazi Party officials per Place Clichy. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 17:29, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. bibliomaniac15 19:12, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting :Category:Cathedrals in Maharashtra

:Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:SMALLCAT, there are only two articles in this category. Note that the category does not have to be merged to either of its parent categories, since both articles are already in an Indian cathedrals by denomination category and also in :Category:Churches in Mumbai. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:04, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

• Support per Marcocapelle. This category is small and unnecessary. Meanwhile, I'll rename the Poona cathedral to Pune per Pune. gidonb (talk) 00:34, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
• Support per nom. Laurel Lodged (talk) 21:35, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. bibliomaniac15 18:42, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in Telangana to :Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in India and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Telangana

:Nominator's rationale: upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT, only two articles in this category. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:01, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

• Support per nom. Laurel Lodged (talk) 21:35, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
• Support per nominator....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 13:13, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. bibliomaniac15 18:42, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Spain to :Category:Spain in the Roman era

:Nominator's rationale: merge, these are two categories with the same scope. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:31, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

• Support There's a huge overlap. Only Portugal would not be in scope, but that already has its own category of :Category:Portugal in the Roman era. Each of the Roman provinces in present day Spain also has its own category so there's no info loss. Laurel Lodged (talk) 09:37, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
• Merge per nom. Place Clichy (talk) 16:42, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
• Merge per nominator....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 15:18, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. There's seems to be a consensus supporting the use of the word "by." I'm utilizing a bit of discretion and going with Bearcat's suggestion of :Category:Radio stations in the United States by insular area, for the sake of consistency with the other subcats in :Category:Radio stations in the United States. There also appears to be some support for an overall merge with :Category:Radio stations in the United States by state to :Category:Radio stations in the United States by state or territory. While intriguing, this falls outside of the purview of this particular discussion and should probably be raised in a separate CFD. bibliomaniac15 01:33, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Radio stations in insular areas of the United States to :Category:Radio stations by insular area of the United States

:Nominator's rationale: Consistency with other category names Mvcg66b3r (talk) 05:01, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

*Not Really: We don't call it :Category:Radio stations by Virginia or :Category:Radio stations by New Hampshire, so why this? I oppose this change. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 14:10 on May 11, 2020 (UTC) • #StayAtHome

• Comment, "by" is not wrong, as it is similar to :Category:Radio stations in the United States by state‎. But I notice that for insular areas of the United States "in" and "of" are used more frequently. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:51, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

::Response: Not sure "by" is similar to "to" or "in", but I disagree. "In" is used exclusively, on top of that, the stations in the "insular areas" (typically called the "US Territories") are found in :Radio stations in American Samoa, :Category:Radio stations in Guam, :Category:Radio stations in the Northern Mariana Islands, :Category:Radio stations in Puerto Rico, and :Category:Radio stations in the United States Virgin Islands, not :Category:Radio stations in insular areas of the United States. As such, I would like to change my vote...

::(RE-!VOTE): Not Really: We don't call it :Category:Radio stations by Virginia or :Category:Radio stations by New Hampshire, so why this? Taking into account the above information about the categories mentioning the actual US Territories and not the "insular areas of the United States", I !vote the :Category:Radio stations in insular areas of the United States be deleted and all radio stations in that category be moved to their correct state and/or territory. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 01:26 on May 12, 2020 (UTC) • #StayAtHome

:::Because there is only one New Hampshire and only one Virginia (no offence, WV) - there are several insular areas, and the category can be subcategorised by them. Grutness...wha? 05:08, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

:::{{ping|Grutness}} I picked two states. :) Virginia was obvious, I live here. :) NH was obvious because NH=NeutralHomer. Anyway, I just don't see the point of having five US territories squished into one category. It just seems silly. Plus, even if you were to subcategorize, it would be :Category:Radio stations in the Territories of the United States. But, I stand by my updated !vote above. Just leave it in the existing US Territory categories. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 06:23 on May 13, 2020 (UTC) • #StayAtHome

::* The delete vote is very confusing because there aren't any radio stations directly in this category. The articles are already in :Category:Radio stations in Guam etc. This is a container category. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:14, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

::*Neutralhomer, there aren't any radio stations being filed directly in this category — if you actually look at it, what it contains is subcategories for radio stations in American Samoa and Guam and the Northern Mariana Islands and Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands. That is, it's not mixing stations across different territories the way you claim — it's just a navigational container, no different from how the "radio stations by state" categories are parented by {{cl|Radio stations in the United States by state}} rather than being filed directly in {{cl|Radio stations in the United States}}, and the individual radio stations are already filed in the way you suggest. Bearcat (talk) 12:05, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

• Support - by insular area... is fine, and should probably be used for even more categories. Another option would be to name territorial categories as Foo in the United States by state or territory, which would also include Washington D.C. and historic territories. Place Clichy (talk) 12:21, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

:: I think that would make more sense, personally. That's certainly what we do in Canada: rather than having one container for the provinces and a separate container for the territories, we keep them together in common "by province or territory" sets. But I think I tried or suggested that once on a similar category (can't remember which one), only to be told that it wasn't acceptable in a U.S. context because reasons — so I would never impose that now without evidence that consensus had changed. Bearcat (talk) 12:05, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

• Support rename, but at a different name than suggested. The equivalent container for the state subcategories is at {{cl|Radio stations in the United States by state}}, and then there are similar containers for "Radio stations in the United states by [city/format/owner]" — so if we want this to stand alone, then it should be at {{cl|Radio stations in the United States by insular area}} rather than breaking the pattern. I'd also support merging it with the state category into a {{cl|Radio stations in the United States by state or territory}} if consensus leans in that direction, but in the absence of a consensus to go that route this should definitely still be renamed. Bearcat (talk) 12:14, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
• Rename but to :Category:Radio stations in U.S. Territories to match its list article or better :Category:Radio stations in United States territories. I note that Hawaii (which is an insular state) does not appear. A subcat with a similar name (daytime only) also needs to be renamed. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:42, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. bibliomaniac15 19:13, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Skoll Award recipients}}

:Nominator's rationale: Wikipedia:OCAWARD. Fuddle (talk) 02:26, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

• Support per nom. Note: lists of winners can be found in Skoll Foundation. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:05, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
• Support Doesn't seem defining to the 1 article. RevelationDirect (talk) 22:12, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: keep. bibliomaniac15 19:13, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Songs written by Arko Pravo Mukherjee}}

:Nominator's rationale: Same category already existed named :Category:Songs with lyrics by Arko Pravo Mukherjee. Then why it was created. Therefore, this category has no use. Empire AS (talk) 06:00, 23 May 2020

• Oppose, Arko Pravo Mukherjee is composer of all 4 songs and wrote the lyrics of only 2 songs. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:12, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

:Oppose. Subject is a songwriter, not a writer of lyrics AND a writer of music. Separating those 2 functions serves no benefit to reader. --Richhoncho (talk) 09:12, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

:Oppose. Technically, this should be a merge request, but nevertheless, I agree with the oppose !votes above. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 00:23, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. bibliomaniac15 19:13, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Coke Studio songs}}

:Nominator's rationale: The articles in this category appear to be older songs which were later performed by others on this Coke Studio program. Hardly a defining characteristic of these songs. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 00:57, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

• Support per nom. Note that lists already exist in Coke Studio (Pakistani season 1) etc. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:16, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
• Support Non-defining. --Richhoncho (talk) 09:17, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

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