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== Category:Group 4 silicides ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:12, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Group 4 silicides to :Category:Transition metal silicides

:Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT: Only 2 articles, one of which is a heavier congener of the other. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 22:13, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Merge per nom. --Just N. (talk) 15:48, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

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== Category:Wikipedians in Luohu Foreign Languages School ==

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:10, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Wikipedians in Luohu Foreign Languages School}}

:Nominator's rationale: Per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/User/Archive/Topical index#Wikipedians by high school (according to the article Luohu Foreign Languages School, {{tq|It is both a high school and a junior middle school.}}) * Pppery * it has begun... 21:41, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. --Just N. (talk) 15:55, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

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== Category:Requested edits ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename to :Category:Wikipedia requested edits. ✗plicit 11:47, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Requested edits to :Category:Wikipedia requested edits

:Nominator's rationale: Maintenance categories should generally begin with "Wikipedia" - and all the other subcategories of :Category:Wikipedia edit requests do so. Elli (talk | contribs) 04:44, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

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== Category:Failed building proposals in the United States ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 08:20, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Failed building proposals in the United States to :Category:Unbuilt buildings and structures in the United States

:Nominator's rationale: The nominated category essentially overlaps with and duplicates the target category, which is for buildings and structures that were proposed but never built: see definitions in {{Cat|Unbuilt buildings and structures}}. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:52, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

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== Category:Organizations of Southern Africa ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename to :Category:Organisations related to Southern Africa (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 08:24, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Organizations of Southern Africa to :Category:Organizations related to Southern Africa

:Nominator's rationale: I'm unsure what would be the best thing to do with this category. It's clearly not acting as {{cat|Organizations based in Southern Africa}}, as it's more narrow than that. I suggest renaming to parallel other regional organization categories like {{Cat|Organizations related to the European Union}} and {{Cat|Organizations related to NATO}}. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:42, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

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== Category:Clergy by faith ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 08:37, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Clergy by faith to :Category:Clergy by religion

:Nominator's rationale: Why "by faith" instead of "by religion"? It is a subcategory of {{Cat|Religious leaders by religion}} and it's the only category I can find for people that uses "by faith" instead of "by religion". Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:38, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

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== Category:Grand Army of the Republic members ==

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:The result of the discussion was: purge of non-officials and rename to :Category:Grand Army of the Republic officials. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:56, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose Deleting :Category:Grand Army of the Republic members

:Nominator's rationale: Per WP:TRIVIALCAT

:I certainly can't claim WP:SMALLCAT here because, at its peak, the Grand Army of the Republic organization had over 400,000 members. The organization represented ex-solders who had fought for the Union side during the American Civil War so all of these biographies should already be somewhere under :Category:Union military personnel. The G.A.R. was very prominent in Republican politics so this category contains multiple U.S. presidents but simply joining a membership organization is not defining and would create category clutter. (I copied the current category contents right here in case another editor wants to start a list article.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:21, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

::We already have :Category:Grand Army of the Republic Commanders-in-Chief for national leaders like your first example, James D. Bell. My concern with the category you created is your second example, George M. Brink, a politician who was one of many local G.A.R. chapter "commanders" and was also nominally part of the Knights of Pythias, Free Masons, and Odd Fellows. - RevelationDirect (talk) 10:36, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

::: Your concern as expressed in the nomination was the 40,000 members of the organization. Obviously, only a fraction of those will have Wikipedia articles, as many Union soldiers were not otherwise notable. There is certainly room for narrowing down the criteria for inclusion in such a category, but some of the people listed headed GAR divisions for their entire state, for which the individual chapter would itself likely be independently notable. BD2412 T 22:33, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

:::: I was about to correct you on the number but the typo was mine: it's over 400,000 members, not just 40,000. (We'll agree to disagree on the nom in any case!) - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:45, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

::::: Either way, the number of notable GAR members is a small fraction of the whole, and the number of notable GAR post commanders is a much smaller subset of that group. I'm sure we can reach some middle ground beyond saying that only leaders of the national organization should be categorized. BD2412 T 01:10, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

:::If we go this direction "officials" might better describe volunteer leaders; I associate "personnel" with paid staff. - RevelationDirect (talk) 11:23, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

:::: I agree with this as well. BD2412 T 04:52, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete, or rename and purge per Marco. --Just N. (talk) 15:58, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete membership in this organization is not defining enough to categorize by.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:11, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

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== Category:Members of Tots and Quots ==

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:The result of the discussion was: delete (list is in the article). Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:08, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose Deleting/Listifying :Category:Members of Tots and Quots

:Nominator's rationale: Per WP:TRIVIALCAT

:Tots and Quots was a private supper club in London during the 1930s and 1940s. The 4 articles in this category are evenly split between those that mention the membership in passing and those that don't mention the organization at all so it doesn't seem generally defining. I listified the current category contents right here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:21, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Background We previously deleted a member category for another London private club right here. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:21, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Listify, possibly as a section in the Tots and Quots article. Grutness...wha? 03:45, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete, membership of an organization is hardly ever defining. Listification has already taken place. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:27, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete/Listify per nom. --Just N. (talk) 15:56, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

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== Category:Four Holy Cities ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge and move page. {{Ping |Peterkingiron |Justus Nussbaum}} please note that the older history should be retained, not deleted. – Fayenatic London 10:55, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Four Holy Cities to :Category:Holy cities of Judaism

:Nominator's rationale: These are the same thing. Four Holy Cities redirects to Holy cities of Judaism. (They are each populated with the four cities, so the nominated category can just be deleted. The nominated category is older and has more edits, so its edit history should probably be retained.) Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:20, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

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== Category:Buffyverse witches ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge to :Category:Fictional witches. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:06, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Buffyverse witches}}

:Nominator's rationale: Very narrow category with no room for expansion. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 00:06, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

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