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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) JBchrch talk 14:44, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Songs about boredom}}

:Nominator's rationale: Delete per WP:SHAREDNAME, they are categorized by name related to boredom rather than whether they are actually about boredom. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 15:52, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

• Delete per nom, plus it is a trivial topic. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:08, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
• Delete as too trivial (just songs with the word "bored" in their names). — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 01:27, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 23:58, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Songs about fear}}

:Nominator's rationale: Delete per WP:SHAREDNAME, they are categorized by name related to fear rather than whether they are actually about fear. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 15:51, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

• Delete per nom, and a too vague and general topic. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:11, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:SHAREDNAME, I am surprised that the creator of this category didn't spin them out into :Category:Songs about being afraid and :Categort:Songs about being scared just to emphasis it is only a shared name. --Richhoncho (talk) 08:44, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Withdrawn (non-admin closure) * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 13:54, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Lower Saxony Wikipedians to :Category:Wikipedians in Lower Saxony

:Nominator's rationale: merge (or reverse merge), the two categories have the same purpose. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:06, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

• Procedural keep While I agree :Category:Wikipedians by ethnicity and nationality is a mess that needs attention, said attention should be part of a mass CfD rather than breaking convention here when nothing appears to be special about Lower Saxony as opposed to, to take some random examples, :Category:Wikipedians in Jalisco/:Category:Jalisco Wikipedians and :Category:Bolivian Wikipedians/:Category:Wikipedians in Bolivia. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 15:16, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
• Withdraw per above. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:44, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 20:35, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Wikipedians interested in Lower Saxony}}

:Nominator's rationale: delete, contains only one editor who appears to be interested in every country and every region in the world. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:40, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

::Please, keep the facts. Should be: contains only one editor who appears to be interested in some country and some region in the world. Djmirko (talk) 07:45, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

::: Buaidh's user page is in 507 (!) Wikipedians interested in ... categories. Most of them are places, so Marcocapelle's claim is a reasonable use of hyperbole. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 13:29, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 13:46, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) JBchrch talk 14:46, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|WikiProject Lower Saxony members}}

:Nominator's rationale: delete, defunct WikiProject. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:38, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

• Delete as empty. Were this category populated, I would weakly support keeping it, as the WikiProject is only tagged as inactive, not defunct and wouldn't make very much sense to delete just this one absent a broader proposal to deleted all categories for inactive WikiProjects. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 13:46, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) JBchrch talk 09:29, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Wikipedians in Helmstedt}}

:Nominator's rationale: Too few people to support a location category, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 December 16#Category:Wikipedians in Mount Juliet, Tennessee * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 13:26, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:14, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. The amount of users expected to be able to join this category is simply too small to support collaboration, as per previous precedent established. VegaDark (talk) 19:28, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 05:36, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Society-related timelines by year}}

:Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary layer; the only sub-cat is already otherwise within the parent categories. – Fayenatic London 08:52, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

• Support per nom. Laurel Lodged (talk) 08:53, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 20:40, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Soviet national policy to :Category:Soviet ethnic policy

:Nominator's rationale: rename to a less ambiguous title. "National policy" can mean anything. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:21, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

• Support per nom. BlackBony (talk) 08:10, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
• Support per nom. Laurel Lodged (talk) 08:54, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename to :Category:Aftermath of World War II in the Soviet Union. (non-admin closure) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:05, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Aftermath of World War II in the Soviet Union and Russia to :Category:Aftermath of World War II in the Soviet Union

:Nominator's rationale: rename, it is strange to have "Russia" mentioned at the same level as "Soviet Union" in this period. At most a sub:Category:Aftermath of World War II in Russia might be created but with the content of the category there seems no need for that. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:13, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

• Support per nom. Strange indeed. Laurel Lodged (talk) 08:55, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
• Support Since Russia was a subsection of the USSR at that point. - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:32, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
• Support, it certainly shouldn't be "and Russian". It could be split up further to Russian SFSR, Ukrainian SSR, Belarus SSR, and so on, but it does not appear to be split and contains all Soviet regions not just the Russian part.--Mvqr (talk) 10:42, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 20:40, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Hospitals in the Soviet Union to :Category:Hospitals built in the Soviet Union

:* Propose renaming :Category:Hospitals in the Russian Empire to :Category:Hospitals built in the Russian Empire

:Nominator's rationale: Rename like others within :Category:Buildings and structures built in the Soviet Union, and revise the "explanatory" text accordingly. From the Soviet category, remove City hospital No. 40 (opened 1740), Bērnu Klīniskā Universitātes Slimnīca (1899), Lesnoye Sanatorium and Pauls Stradiņš Clinical University Hospital (both opened in 1910). – Fayenatic London 06:18, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

• Support, can be speedied per WP:C2C. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:04, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
• Support per nom. Laurel Lodged (talk) 08:56, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename to :Category:Psychiatric hospitals in Russia. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 06:08, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Psychiatric hospitals in the Soviet Union and Russia to :Category:Psychiatric hospitals in Russia

:Nominator's rationale: Distinguish current from former country. Where appropriate, the member articles are already in :Category:Political abuse of psychiatry in the Soviet Union and :Category:Hospitals in the Soviet Union. – Fayenatic London 06:03, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

• Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:05, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
• Support per nom. Laurel Lodged (talk) 08:56, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
• Support Category names should not be formulated to equate these two states, and privilege just one of the USSR’s fifteen successor states.  —Michael Z. 03:31, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
• Support. It could be further split up by Soviet states, but it shouldn't be "and Russia".--Mvqr (talk) 10:43, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 05:40, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:2020s timelines of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict to :Category:Timelines of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict

:Nominator's rationale: The parent category has just 20+ pages. A recently-created separate category for one decade with only ten potential pages (currently, three) is uncalled for. Unnecessary categories make navigation more confusing. Triggerhippie4 (talk) 00:16, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

• Support per nom. "By decade" is excessive. Laurel Lodged (talk) 08:57, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
• Merge per nom. Even though I have just created another parent :Category:2020s timelines, I do not think the nominated category is a useful layer. – Fayenatic London 21:22, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic London 19:35, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Breaking Bad songs}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Better Call Saul songs}}

:Nominator's rationale: None of these songs are original to the TV series, thus none are defined by their use in these shows. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 00:06, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

• Delete Per WP:NONDEF. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:09, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
• Delete Per WP:PERFCAT. - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:33, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: no consensus (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 05:34, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Odebrecht to :Category:Novonor

:* Propose renaming :Category:Odebrecht people to :Category:Novonor people

:Nominator's rationale: The Odebrecht Group was renamed to Novonor. 2016Começa (talk) 22:34, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

• Note: main article move was reverted by Mathglot, on the grounds that Odebrecht remains the common name, see Talk:Odebrecht#Novonor. – Fayenatic London 19:39, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose There's been 1 unsuccessful RM to rename the main article at Talk:Odebrecht, another RM whose outcome is unclear, and a third informal conversation on a rename. No opinion on that controversy, but it needs to be resolved by consensus in the article space (probably with a third RM instead of bold moves and unmoves) and then these categories can be be speedily renamed to match. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:25, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

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