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:The result of the discussion was: single merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:51, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:14th century in Asia by city to :Category:14th century by city and :Category:14th century in Asia

:* Propose merging :Category:13th century in Asia by city to :Category:13th century by city and :Category:13th century in Asia

:Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge for now. There's only one category in here which is unhelpful for navigation Mason (talk) 23:46, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support in principle, but only merge to :Category:13th century by city, because the content is already in :Category:13th century in Thailand. Same for the 14th century. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:33, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support per Marcocapelle. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:20, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:51, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Television episodes about multiple time paths}}

:Nominator's rationale: This was missed in Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_December_19#Category:Multiple_time_paths_in_fiction. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 23:45, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

• Delete per precedent. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:55, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: double merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:51, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:English-Slovene multilingual journals to :Category:Multilingual journals

:Nominator's rationale: Journals that publish in more than 1 language are categorized in "multilingual journals". Creating a separate category for each possible language combination ("Croatian-Serbian-Albanian language journals") would be unnecessary and cumbersome. Randykitty (talk) 22:46, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

• Merge per nom, also to :Category:Slovene-language journals. Several sibling categories may be nominated too. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:58, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge to :Category:Franco Tosi Meccanica. (non-admin closure) Toadette ^{(Merry Christmas, and a happy new year)} 22:52, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Ships built by Franco Tosi Meccanica to :Category:Franco Tosi Meccanica

:Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category only has one category in it, which is unhelpful for navigation Mason (talk) 22:15, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:59, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Merge for now. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 10:51, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
• Merge for now per WP:MFN with no objection to recreation if the additional articles are created later. - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:00, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:53, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Ukrainian Buddhists to :Category:Russian Buddhists

:Nominator's rationale: Horizontal merge, cat created this year with a population of a single page that doesn't even identify subject as Ukrainian. Recently there's been a big rash of POV-pushers find-and-replacing "Russian" for "Ukrainian" on random pages in flagrant disregard of established sources (Suprematism was where I personally ran into it the most) and this seems like another textbook case. Orchastrattor (talk) 21:55, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

• Merge per nom, although I would prefer "Buddhists from the Russian Empire". Marcocapelle (talk) 09:07, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:53, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Service vessels of North America}}

:Nominator's rationale: No need to have service vessels just for north america, there's no ships of north america etc. Mason (talk) 21:27, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

• Delete per nom, both subcats are already in the by-country tree. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:08, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:19, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Delete By continent isn't generally defining for vessels that travel in water. - RevelationDirect (talk) 04:18, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:54, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:School-themed animation to :Category:Fiction about schools

:Nominator's rationale: Layer with only one subcategory. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:17, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support Per nom, as a category that is too tiny to be needed. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:59, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:09, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:57, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Halls of residence in Kolkata to :Category:Halls of residence in India and :Category:Educational buildings in Kolkata

:Nominator's rationale: Contains only 2 articles. Narrow intersection. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:56, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:26, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
• Merge for Now with no objection to recreating later should the article count grow, per WP:MFN. - RevelationDirect (talk) 04:16, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:57, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:University of Colorado Boulder campus to :Category:University of Colorado Boulder

:Nominator's rationale: University of Colorado Boulder is the campus. Merge. –Aidan721 (talk) 16:56, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

• Merge for now, there is only one article in it, which is not helpful for navigation. I suppose it is debatable whether it is or has a campus. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:35, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:57, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:University of Colorado Boulder residence halls to :Category:University of Colorado Boulder buildings, :Category:University and college residential buildings in Colorado

:Nominator's rationale: Only contains one article. Upmerge. –Aidan721 (talk) 16:53, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

• Merge for now, there is only one article in it, which is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:37, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
• Merge for Now with no objection to recreation should more content appear later, per WP:MFN. - RevelationDirect (talk) 04:15, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge to :Category:School districts in Minnesota. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:58, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Suburban Minneapolis School Districts}}

:Nominator's rationale: Not a useful way to categorize school districts with both Minneapolis and Saint Paul, Minnesota being central cities and differing definitions of which suburbs are more affiliated with which city. More useful category would be Minneapolis-Saint Paul area school districts but I'm not sure if that category is even needed. Eóin (talk) 02:57, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

• Comment, if not kept then merge to :Category:School districts in Minnesota. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:09, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
• :Yes, I agree that these articles should be in the School districts in Minnesota category instead. -Eóin (talk) 00:23, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

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• Merge to :Category:School districts in Minnesota. "Suburban Minneapolis" is not a defining trait. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:02, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
• Merge to :Category:School districts in Minnesota but more per WP:SUBJECTIVECAT. How far out the suburbs extend can be subjective and changes over time. - RevelationDirect (talk) 04:14, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: manual merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:53, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Fictional characters by abilities to :Category:Fictional characters by attribute

:Nominator's rationale: I don't think that this category is clearly defined enough. What counts as an ability? There is not equivalent version for people Mason (talk) 16:36, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

::Oppose AHI-3000 (talk) 20:47, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

• Manually merge, it only applies to :Category:Fictional characters with disabilities and :Category:Fictional characters with giftedness. Redundant category layer for only two subcategories that properly belong here. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:56, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
• ::Category:Fictional acrobats is and should be in the occupation tree, but where should :Category:Fictional superhumans go? –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:22, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• :* It can just be purged, if articles about superhumans discuss certain specific abilities they should be lower in the tree anyway. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:21, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• :*:But I don't understand why it can't belong in :Category:Fictional characters by attribute. As it stands, it will lose a major connection to the :Category:Fictional characters parent, and it is questionable whether :Category:Fictional transhumans is suitable because some superhuman characters are not human at all. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:33, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• :*:* Superhumans have abilities (by which we can categorize) but it is not an ability in itself. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:43, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Manually merge per Marcocapelle. You are correct that "ability" is subjective. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:57, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: dual merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:54, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose splitting :Category:Maps of the history of Israel to :Category:Maps of the history of the Middle East and :Category:Maps of Israel

:Nominator's rationale: Dual merge: Only one category in here, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 16:08, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 16:21, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:00, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:26, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Awards by university and college by country to :Category:Awards by university or college

:Nominator's rationale: Rename this category because there isn't a main Awards by university or college category, which would be helpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 15:48, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support per nom and remove :Category:Universities and colleges by country as a parent if renamed. –Aidan721 (talk) 16:17, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
• Rename per nom. As for parenting, rather replace:Category:Universities and colleges by country as a parent by :Category:Universities and colleges. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:06, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:33, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:University of Arkansas at Monticello schools to :Category:University of Arkansas at Monticello

:Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category only has one page in it, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 15:44, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 16:22, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:08, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:33, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Neurotrauma to :Category:Brain damage

:Nominator's rationale: Consistency with main article Brain damage; not doing speedy because it is possible that this name is not encompassing of the spinal cord and peripheral nervous system. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 08:20, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

1. Oppose renaming (as the person who originally created the cat) for the reason LaundryPizza mentioned: not all neurotrauma is brain damage. Many of the articles are about spinal cord or other neural injury (TIL Hand of benediction is a thing). Also I'm not sure it'd be accurate to imply that all brain damage is trauma related, e.g. I don't think you'd call stroke or hypoxia neurotrauma. Also, not all trauma necessarily results in damage, e.g. concussion is a transient loss of function. Rather than changing the cat name, maybe we should correct the implication in brain damage that neurotrauma is a synonym. Maybe neurotrauma needs its own article and then it could be the main article instead. But I'd defer to whatever WP:MED thinks. delldot ∇. 11:23, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
2. :Oppose per delldot and a brief review of this paper for definitions. (It's more complex than brain damage) Chen, A. Y. and Colantonio, A. (2011). Defining neurotrauma in administrative data using the international classification of diseases tenth revision. Emerging Themes in Epidemiology, 8(1). https://doi.org/10.1186/1742-7622-8-4 Mason (talk) 04:35, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

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::Oppose The terms, while overlapping, are neither synonymous, nor is "neurotrauma" a hyponym of "brain damage". Paradoctor (talk) 00:30, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:50, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Neurotrauma to :Category:Brain damage

:Nominator's rationale: Consistency with main article Brain damage; not doing speedy because it is possible that this name is not encompassing of the spinal cord and peripheral nervous system. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 08:20, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

1. Oppose renaming (as the person who originally created the cat) for the reason LaundryPizza mentioned: not all neurotrauma is brain damage. Many of the articles are about spinal cord or other neural injury (TIL Hand of benediction is a thing). Also I'm not sure it'd be accurate to imply that all brain damage is trauma related, e.g. I don't think you'd call stroke or hypoxia neurotrauma. Also, not all trauma necessarily results in damage, e.g. concussion is a transient loss of function. Rather than changing the cat name, maybe we should correct the implication in brain damage that neurotrauma is a synonym. Maybe neurotrauma needs its own article and then it could be the main article instead. But I'd defer to whatever WP:MED thinks. delldot ∇. 11:23, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
2. :Oppose per delldot and a brief review of this paper for definitions. (It's complex that brain damage) Chen, A. Y. and Colantonio, A. (2011). Defining neurotrauma in administrative data using the international classification of diseases tenth revision. Emerging Themes in Epidemiology, 8(1). https://doi.org/10.1186/1742-7622-8-4 Mason (talk) 04:35, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge to :Category:Fiction about time travel. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:51, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Time travel in Star Trek to :Category:?

:Nominator's rationale: Must be a defining trait, but Fiction about X is not grammatical in this case. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 09:18, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

• Merge to :Category:Fiction about time travel or its subcategories. There is no apparent need for the specific nature of this category. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 13:31, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
• Merge per Zxcvbnm. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:09, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

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• Merge per above. –Aidan721 (talk) 16:22, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
• Merge per Zxcvbnm. - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:57, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: no consensus. No prejudice against renomination. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:17, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|21st-century African-American sportspeople}}

:Nominator's rationale: A non-notable intersection. User:Namiba 21:58, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

::Oppose. African Americans in sport and by extension African-American sportspeople is a very notable intersection , whereas diffusion by century is needed because the category is quiet large. If not kept, it should be merged to it :Category:21st-century African-American people and :Category:21st-century American sportspeople. Mason (talk) 01:58, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

:::This should be deleted because African-Americans are not a unique, identifiable group in the 21st century as they were for much of the 20th. They're the majority in many sports and filly integrated across the board.--User:Namiba 02:14, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

::::How does this jibe with Wikipedia:EGRS? Mason (talk) 15:36, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

:::::I argue that African-American sportspeople in the 21st century do not "constitute a distinct and identifiable group with a specific cultural and political context" as required by EGRS. That's why African-American basketball players was recently deleted. If anything, European-Americans are a more distinct and identifiable group in certain sports in the US i.e. basketball, track and field, and American football.--User:Namiba 14:41, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

::::::Deleting would remove these people from :Category:21st-century African-American people. Please tell me you're not saying that being African-American in the 21st century is not a defining characteristic Mason (talk) 19:40, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

:::::::Anyone who is documentably African-American should be recategorized. As discussed regarding the basketball category, a significant number, likely an overwhelming majority of articles, make no claim on ancestry so simply merging them doesn't help this major WP:BLP issue.--User:Namiba 18:11, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

::::::::I really don't find this part of the argument compelling. Deleting a category because it isn't explicilty noted doesn't seem like a good practice. Are you going to be doing that recategorization? And how can you only want to do this for 21st century african americans? I don't find the argument compelling either: that black people being in the majority of athletes means that they aren't defining. Wouldn't that argument apply to women in many professions? Should we get rid of 21st-century American women writers, educators etc? Mason (talk) 21:53, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

:::::::::You think we should include information in articles which is not verifiable? User:Namiba 03:09, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

::::::::::You have not answered any of my questions about how this nomination is extremely problematic. Mason (talk) 22:37, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

:::::::::::Can you rephase your questions more clearly? Because honestly, they're difficult to answer as you have posed them. I think I have clearly explained why this category fails WP:EGRS but I will rephrase. 21st-century African-American sportspeople do not "constitute a distinct and identifiable group with a specific cultural and political context." This is what is expected per our guidelines. No sport openly discriminates against African-Americans in the 21st century. The top performers in many sports, both team and individuals, are African-Americans in the present-day. It would be nearly impossible to write an article about the experiences of African-Americans in sports in the 21st century because their ethnicity is not defining to nearly the same extent as it was in previous periods. As such, this category should be deleted.--User:Namiba 20:39, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

::::::::::Ok, that's helpful, and I can see how you could argue that. However, I'm pretty troubled by your snarky response to my question about your category removal of Aquil Abdullah from African American categories. He is pretty clearly sourced as being an african american athlete, yet you removed him and then reverted my post asking about it. I'm trying to understand because you said he didn't have sufficient sourcing for being African American, while I interpret the sentence "He was also the first African-American male to win a rowing national championship in 1996, when he won the single sculls competition.[2]" along with the source to "count" as him being African-American. Talk:Aquil_Abdullah#Removed_categories Mason (talk) 03:14, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

:::::::::::The fact that you've brought up one misedit in at least three separate venues is borderline Wikipedia:Harassment.--User:Namiba 23:55, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

::Oppose as per @Smasongarrison. It helps with navigation. Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:15, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

• Delete, it is more useful to diffuse by sports (as is already done) than by century. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:00, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
• :The advantage is that it helps diffuse the huge :Category:21st-century African-American people. It's the same reason that :Category:21st-century American sportspeople was closed as no consensus [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_October_29#Category:20th-century_sportspeople_by_nationality]. Mason (talk) 01:10, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
• :@Marcocapelle, I agree it is better to diffuse by sports than century but, as @Smasongarrison has noted, it helps diffuse larger categories and with navigation. Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:17, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
• :* My standard response is that we shouldn't categorize by 20th or 21st century at all, it is entirely indistinct. That certainly also applies to :Category:21st-century African-American people. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:56, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

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::Comment why delete only :Category:21st-century African-American sportspeople and not :Category:20th-century African-American sportspeople or even all :Category:African-American sportspeople? Hugo999 (talk) 22:48, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

::As stated above, "This should be deleted because African-Americans are not a unique, identifiable group in the 21st century as they were for much of the 20th." I've also stated " 21st-century African-American sportspeople do not "constitute a distinct and identifiable group with a specific cultural and political context." This is what is expected per our guidelines. No sport openly discriminates against African-Americans in the 21st century. The top performers in many sports, both team and individuals, are African-Americans in the present-day. It would be nearly impossible to write an article about the experiences of African-Americans in sports in the 21st century because their ethnicity is not defining to nearly the same extent as it was in previous periods. As such, this category should be deleted." You can also see the discussion regarding a similar category, Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_November_2#Category:African-American_basketball_players, which was deleted back in November. The vast majority of articles categorized as being about African-American sportspeople do not have a single claim or source to back them up. The category is added based on a presumption, which fails WP:V and WP:BLP in many cases. I would favor deleting all by-century categories but let's start with the one currently being discussed.--User:Namiba 23:55, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: disperse. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:14, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Fictional characters by beliefs or ideologies to :Category:Fictional characters by behavior

:Nominator's rationale: "Beliefs or ideologies" seems like a random and unnecessary narrow intersection that may also be subjective (Is vegetarian really an ideology or just a health choice?) It is better off being merged as unhelpful. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 17:21, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

::Merge to :Category:Fictional characters by attribute; none of these are behaviors except for :Category:Fictional vegan and vegetarian characters. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 17:44, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

::Oppose AHI-3000 (talk) 17:56, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

:::See WP:NOTAVOTE. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 18:04, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

• Disperse, a strange mix of unrelated things. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:15, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

:# :Category:Fictional nihilists to :Category:Fictional characters

:# :Category:Fictional characters by political orientation to :Category:Fictional characters by attribute

:# :Category:Fictional characters by religion to :Category:Fictional characters by attribute

:# :Category:Fictional vegan and vegetarian characters to :Category:Fictional characters by behavior

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::If only because I know this category is unlikely to stay in its current form, then just merge into :Category:Fictional characters by behavior. I do not support moving the subcategories to :Category:Fictional characters by attribute. AHI-3000 (talk) 08:51, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

• Disperse per Marcocapelle. This is an unworkable grouping. - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:54, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:05, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Tennis coaches from Indiana to :Category:Sports coaches from Indiana and :Category:American tennis coaches

:Nominator's rationale: Only category for American tennis coaches by state, contained five pages, three of whom were not from Indiana (and have been categorized accordingly). Better to merge with the above listed categories. Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:59, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:32, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
• :Support per nom. Mason (talk) 22:35, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
• Keep category now contains 4 articles and is part of a growing subcategory at :Category:American tennis coaches by state.--User:Namiba 16:25, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

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::@Marcocapelle, @Smasongarrison, do you still support the nom? Qwerfjkltalk 19:07, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

:::Still merge. There are now only 4 pages in the category. I don't think that there's a critical mass for many of these states, like :Category:Tennis coaches from Pennsylvania and :Category:Tennis coaches from Michigan‎ have even fewer people (1 and 2). Mason (talk) 20:49, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

:::* Agree with Mason. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:33, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

::::@Smasongarrison, @Marcocapelle: there are not as many tennis coaches in general as, say, baseball coaches because there are TYPES of baseball coaches (bullpen, first base, second base, bench, etc.) and, almost always, there only one tennis coach per player at a time.

::::Indeed quite a few of these coaches are university coaches of other sports who happened to coach one season of college tennis. I was against the creation of these categories and I'd prefer these be deleted entirely. Omnis Scientia (talk) 07:50, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

::::* Ok, but that will require a fresh nomination. Shall we first conclude this one? Marcocapelle (talk) 12:18, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

::::*:@Marcocapelle, of course! I am actually waiting for this one to close before I proceed with the others which were created after this one was nominated. Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:01, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:05, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose splitting :Category:People from the British Central Africa Protectorate to :Category:British Central Africa Protectorate and :Category:People from former British colonies and protectorates in Africa

:Nominator's rationale: Dual merge. This underpopulated category doesn't help with navigation. Mason (talk) 23:00, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

• Just delete, there is only two sentences in the whole article about it, while the article is mainly about the subject's stay in China. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:41, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
• Comment I would not oppose deletion, but the alternative is to merge to as category for the successor entities Nyasaland or Malawi. This may be anachronistic, but that hardly matters. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:55, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

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• Delete Not defining to the only article. - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:45, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: triple merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:05, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

::...And I did the merge in question. - Altenmann >talk 18:21, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Novellas set in schools}}

:Nominator's rationale: 1-article category contained in a category containing only this subcategory. Gjs238 (talk) 12:17, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

::Merge to :Category:Novels set in schools and :Category:Short stories set in schools; the article in question can also be placed within :Category:Children's books set in schools. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:23, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:04, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Fictional offspring of incestuous relationships to :Category:Fictional offspring of incest

:Nominator's rationale: I feel like the current name is unnecessarily long; the new name is analogous to :Category:Fictional offspring of rape. Note that neither category has a real-world counterpart, which would violate WP:BLPCAT. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 06:39, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

::Support renaming per nom. AHI-3000 (talk) 22:48, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

• Delete as trivial, and because there is no real-world counterpart. Or else rename per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:50, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
• :{{ping|Marcocapelle}} Is that a vote for deletion or renaming? AHI-3000 (talk) 06:16, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
• :* For deletion, as it stands. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:53, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
• Delete This is definitely trivial. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:14, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

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• Delete since it seems trivial. (If kept, support the rename.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:44, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:03, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Cashew fruit drinks to :Category:Cashew apple drinks

:Nominator's rationale: Cashew fruit refers to the apple and the nut, whereas these drinks are made solely from the apple. BaduFerreira (talk) 12:03, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

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• Rename per nom. - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:36, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:58, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Mixed-gender bands}} (and subcategories {{lc|Male–female musical duos}} and {{lc|Mixed-gender musical trios}})

:Nominator's rationale: Is this a defining feature? And I have no idea why this is subcategorized under :Category:Pop music groups (e.g. 10,000 Maniacs and Screaming Females are hardly "pop music") and :Category:Sex segregation (it's quite literally the opposite of that!). Also adding subcategories :Category:Male–female musical duos and :Category:Mixed-gender musical trios. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:01, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

• Delete Not defining at all. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:08, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
• Keep, clearly defining per the sources in Mixed-gender band, which categorize and classify popular music bands (as opposed to vocal groups) composed of both male and female performers. Mixed-gender bands are, as the sources indicate, a relative historical rarity, with the substantial majority of all bands, ever, having been composed of only male performers. BD2412 T 20:29, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
• Keep all, per BD2412 and Mixed-gender band article. Hiddenstranger (talk) 00:38, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
• Comment, I have removed :Category:Sex segregation as a parent category and noticed that someone else reparented this to :Category:Musical groups. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:01, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
• Editors are welcome to improve the category tree. The category is valid irrespective of how it is parented, though. BD2412 T 20:47, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

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::Keep: Defining characteristic. Let'srun (talk) 12:33, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: dual merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:56, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Metrology journals to :Category:Physics journals

:Nominator's rationale: Metrology is a rather small field and it is unlikely that there will be more journals as specialized as the current single entry, Metrologia. Randykitty (talk) 07:57, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

• Dual merge, also to :Category:Metrology. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:27, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

:*Yes, of course! --Randykitty (talk) 09:46, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

• Dual Merge for now with no objection to recreation later should the article count grow, per WP:MFN. - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:20, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

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:* Propose merging :Category:Novels set in France by century to :Category:Novels set in France

:Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one category in here, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 00:02, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:40, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

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